dropped kerb.....they think they own...
dropped kerb.....they think they own...
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dorifter

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103 posts

264 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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when people drop the kirb outside there house and they have no garage...........why do they not understand that anyone can park across there drive when there is no car,my mates road has numerous amounts of these road owner types and when i go to his house parking is problem,so i block an empty driveway......10 mins and the doorbell rings and i am being asked to move ,thats not to bad but then they always start "i am not allowed to block there drive blah blah".
i am sure i am right help me out LEGAL OR NOT??

timsta

2,779 posts

269 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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Um, I believe you're wrong.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

262 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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Well I know parking across someones drive is bloody rude. You shouldn't do it. Consideration costs nothing

Dibble

13,257 posts

263 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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Highway Code, rule 217:

DO NOT park your vehicle or trailer on the road where it would endanger, inconvenience or obstruct pedestrians or other road users. For example, do not stop:

in front of an entrance to a property

where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users

(Other examples deleted for clarity).

Just because there isn't a car there when you park, doesn't mean that someone won't want to get back on to their property later in a vehicle.

>> Edited by Dibble on Monday 14th June 19:03

dorifter

Original Poster:

103 posts

264 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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DIBBLE.............WTF i dont think you understand,or maybe i'm just ignorant !,so you are telling me that if every resident of a street drops there kirb then decides to abandon driving and sell there cars....unknown to everyone else then no one can ever park down the road because you daid they might be coming back soon,dropping the kirb surely gives you access when availiable,if your disabled then you get a disabled bay ,correct ?

timsta

2,779 posts

269 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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dorifter said:
DIBBLE.............WTF i dont think you understand,or maybe i'm just ignorant !


With that sort of attitude I would tend to think the latter. You asked a question, you got the correct answer.

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

271 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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I can clarify this one for you.

It is known as a 'carriage crossing'. If you want one, you ask the council and they come and put one in for you, they can't refuse either, and they have to pay for it, not you.

If you put your own in without informing the council or getting permission, its not a 'carriage crossing' its still public road and folks can park across it...tough.

Also just putting a bit of wood against the curb to lessen the bump as you drive over the curb to your drive is also a no-no, its still public road and folks can park across it...tough.

Also, if the council catch you with a drive, but no carriage crossing onto it, they can put one in and bill you for it. So ask them 1st, and its free.

Dave^

7,787 posts

276 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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this mean you'd let someone park outside your house and stop you getting onto your drive?

i doubt it........

streaky

19,311 posts

272 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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BTW, it's spelled "kerb" not "kirb", "their" not "there" ("there kirb"), "you're" not "your" ("your disabled") and "available", not "availiable" - Streaky

Dibble

13,257 posts

263 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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And if you cause unnecessary obstruction by blocking a person's access to their driveway (if legal dropped kerb), you can receive a non endorsable fixed penalty notice (£30.00), and/or the removal of your vehicle by an approved recovery operator (£120.00 for the removal, then £12.00 per day or part thereof for storage).

I work shifts, so when I get home at collection time for the school down the road, it can be more than a little annoying to find some lazy parent has parked across my driveway, thus stopping me getting my car on it.

dorifter

Original Poster:

103 posts

264 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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who's lazy ,when its people like you having to flop out of there cars only a few steps from there door,most driveways are seeing an end to "surburban hedgerow front gardens",where do all the dickie birds park when all the greenery is being replaced with heronbone blocks

dorifter

Original Poster:

103 posts

264 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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streaky said:
BTW, it's spelled "kerb" not "kirb", "their" not "there" ("there kirb"), "you're" not "your" ("your disabled") and "available", not "availiable" - Streaky


BTW its streakie

dorifter

Original Poster:

103 posts

264 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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Balmoral Green said:
I can clarify this one for you.

It is known as a 'carriage crossing'. If you want one, you ask the council and they come and put one in for you, they can't refuse either, and they have to pay for it, not you.

If you put your own in without informing the council or getting permission, its not a 'carriage crossing' its still public road and folks can park across it...tough.

Also just putting a bit of wood against the curb to lessen the bump as you drive over the curb to your drive is also a no-no, its still public road and folks can park across it...tough.

Also, if the council catch you with a drive, but no carriage crossing onto it, they can put one in and bill you for it. So ask them 1st, and its free.
CONFUSED its not free ,my neighbour paid £700

rolex

3,119 posts

281 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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I have a lampost in the way of a proposed frontal driveway. Would the council consider moving my house 5 feet to the left?

bogush

481 posts

289 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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Didn't I read somewhere that it is illegal to block people in, but not out?!

(Do the police ever respond to either situation?).

And isn't the question:

If there is nowhere to park because everybody has had their curbs/kerbs dropped to form cross-overs, and then parked on the road in between them and you park across a crossover to an empty drive: has anyone a legal right to demand that you move your car just because it is parked across the cross-over (rather than blocking access to a car trying to get into the drive)?

A simple (but authoratitive) yes/no answer would no doubt be more than helpful to someone who might be dyslexic.

>> Edited by bogush on Monday 14th June 22:07

tvrgit

8,483 posts

275 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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yes

bogush

481 posts

289 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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tvrgit said:
yes


I suspect you'll find it's actually:

No ! ; - )

tvrgit

8,483 posts

275 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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ok if you say so

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

271 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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dorifter said:

Balmoral Green said:
I can clarify this one for you.

It is known as a 'carriage crossing'. If you want one, you ask the council and they come and put one in for you, they can't refuse either, and they have to pay for it, not you.

If you put your own in without informing the council or getting permission, its not a 'carriage crossing' its still public road and folks can park across it...tough.

Also just putting a bit of wood against the curb to lessen the bump as you drive over the curb to your drive is also a no-no, its still public road and folks can park across it...tough.

Also, if the council catch you with a drive, but no carriage crossing onto it, they can put one in and bill you for it. So ask them 1st, and its free.

CONFUSED its not free ,my neighbour paid £700


Perhaps it varies from council to council, or I am out of date (I had one put in for free in 1986). Anyways, if your neighbour paid £700 for it, more shame on folks for parking across it.

tvrgit

8,483 posts

275 months

Monday 14th June 2004
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Most councils will write to frontagers if they are going to relay a footway, along the lines of "if you want a dropped crossing then tell us and we'll do it for nothing now" because it costs them nothing extra.

If you want a crossing to be built otherwise, normally you pay.
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