Bliar hails 'life-saving' cameras
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3812153.stm
Tosser's nailed his colours to the mast, eh?
>>> Edited by Don on Wednesday 16th June 17:07
bbc web site said:
Bliar hails 'life-saving' cameras
The spread of electronic speed enforcement has been controversial
Concern about rising numbers of speed cameras is "perfectly understandable" but they are playing a real role in saving lives, Tony Blair has said.
The prime minister told MPs cameras in accident hotspots prevented about 900 deaths and serious injuries a year.
Labour's Patrick Hall urged the PM to expand the programme of speed cameras and road safety measures claiming they had reduced deaths and injuries by 35%.
Mr Blair said a "balanced policy" was the best approach.
" The reduction in deaths has been somewhere in the region of almost 900 in a year "
Tony Blair
Earlier this week a government study claimed speed cameras saved 100 lives every year.
The three-year study of accident rates on roads with cameras shows a 40% cut in the number of people killed and seriously injured.
The number of cameras in England and Wales is growing. There are now around 5,000 fixed speed cameras and sites where mobile cameras are often located.
Concern
Asked to back calls for an expansion in the camera programme during prime minister's questions, Mr Blair said: "It's important that we use speed cameras where it's clear there's a proven benefit to the safety of motorists and others in doing so ...
"There is obviously concern, for perfectly understandable reasons, about the use of speed cameras.
"Nonetheless, I think the reduction in deaths has been somewhere in the region of almost 900 in a year as a result of the introduction of speed cameras in places where they do have accident hotspots."
Downing Street later said Mr Blair was referring to figures suggesting the cameras cut 870 deaths and serious injuries a year.
Tosser's nailed his colours to the mast, eh?
>>> Edited by Don on Wednesday 16th June 17:07
Just been thinking statistically
There are now approx 5000 cameras, each sited at a place with 4 killed (or?8 serious injuries) in last three years. Or 1.3 killed per year (average)
So there should be 1.3 x 5000 kills each year on the road 6500 fatalities
As we only have 3500 fatalities where have the others disappeared to? Is the a storage number for which the government is claiming the life savings?
There are now approx 5000 cameras, each sited at a place with 4 killed (or?8 serious injuries) in last three years. Or 1.3 killed per year (average)
So there should be 1.3 x 5000 kills each year on the road 6500 fatalities
As we only have 3500 fatalities where have the others disappeared to? Is the a storage number for which the government is claiming the life savings?
No wonder economy is in mess - he cannot count!
Ach - Pinocchio and twazak of two centuries - given himself away - 900 = 100 when it suits -- and then to cover his little slip - gets his spinners to say he really meant SIs.
Er - Ma-in-Law pressed the record button on her Video during PMQ this morning and Tone definitely did say "Speed cameras had been proved to save 900 lives per year. We are committed to improving this programme!" in answer to the Labour crone after front bench seat next to toothesome cornetto who was all but begging for more scams in light of the UCL report.
How do these people actually get recruited? IQ test? To select morons only?
Over 5000 scams and rising - not many extra lives saved - nor that many fewer serious injuries as result.
Why not invest in the training, improve the easy-peasy test, ensure all people know how to cross roads, invest in decent adverts - realistic ones which give clear message with clear educational input - instead of the half-baked, edited and with very amateurish special effects - which instil unsubstantiated fears into the dimwits and upon which the intelligentsia pour scorn.
In the meantime my advice to both Tone and Dick Ed - invest in an abacus! Apparently - they need one!
Ach - Pinocchio and twazak of two centuries - given himself away - 900 = 100 when it suits -- and then to cover his little slip - gets his spinners to say he really meant SIs.
Er - Ma-in-Law pressed the record button on her Video during PMQ this morning and Tone definitely did say "Speed cameras had been proved to save 900 lives per year. We are committed to improving this programme!" in answer to the Labour crone after front bench seat next to toothesome cornetto who was all but begging for more scams in light of the UCL report.
How do these people actually get recruited? IQ test? To select morons only?
Over 5000 scams and rising - not many extra lives saved - nor that many fewer serious injuries as result.
Why not invest in the training, improve the easy-peasy test, ensure all people know how to cross roads, invest in decent adverts - realistic ones which give clear message with clear educational input - instead of the half-baked, edited and with very amateurish special effects - which instil unsubstantiated fears into the dimwits and upon which the intelligentsia pour scorn.
In the meantime my advice to both Tone and Dick Ed - invest in an abacus! Apparently - they need one!

voyds9 said:
Just been thinking statistically
There are now approx 5000 cameras, each sited at a place with 4 killed (or?8 serious injuries) in last three years. Or 1.3 killed per year (average)
So there should...........
Loadsa photos, surely, among the 5 to 10 million taken of speeding motorists speeding through accident blackspots, of speed killing?
No?
Well, I'll say it again! At the risk of getting shot down.
I'm NOT here to defend Tory B. liar, he can do that himself the lying so and so!
But, NO OTHER Government of any shade is going to repeal the use of Gatso's Etc.
The BEST we can hope from them is a raising of the motorway speed limit to 80 mph, to bring us into line with mainland Europe. But, I think this is on the cards anyway, At a time "beneficial" to the Government of course.
I'm NOT here to defend Tory B. liar, he can do that himself the lying so and so! But, NO OTHER Government of any shade is going to repeal the use of Gatso's Etc.
The BEST we can hope from them is a raising of the motorway speed limit to 80 mph, to bring us into line with mainland Europe. But, I think this is on the cards anyway, At a time "beneficial" to the Government of course.
B-liar said it - therfore it must be right.... How dare we 'the people' to have the audacity to question him....
Unfortunately Joe public is too thick to think for themselves - whatever 'The Sun Says' is taken as gospel. I am sure the B-liar propoganda wagon will spout yet more lies before the next election and they will be back in again. The B-liar brigade have made politics become the control of press and spin.
Unfortunately Joe public is too thick to think for themselves - whatever 'The Sun Says' is taken as gospel. I am sure the B-liar propoganda wagon will spout yet more lies before the next election and they will be back in again. The B-liar brigade have made politics become the control of press and spin.
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