Gatso spotters on new cars
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woodytvr

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623 posts

268 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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Just read this on BMW Car Forum - Taken from Auto Express.



Gatso Spotters For New Cars


peed camera detectors will be fitted as standard to new cars, Auto Express can exclusively reveal. And the first units could be in place within a year.

Road Angel MD Dave Clark claims his company is working closely with a manufacturer to add trap-spotting technology as standard equipment. He said: "I can't tell you which maker we're liaising with yet, but by the beginning of next year, our detectors will be fitted to cars in showrooms, I am sure of that."

The firm's units are already sold via the dealer networks of many car companies, so standard fitment is the next step. "This means customers will be able to specify our product alongside sat-nav and air-con," he added. "And who wouldn't choose to save their licence?"

A spokesman for Snooper safety alert systems, whose detectors are approved by BMW and Fiat, was not surprised at the development. He said: "It's probably a good thing, and this is where we see the market going at the moment."

However, Kevin Delaney of the RAC Foundation aired a note of caution. "We would have no objection to these units being fitted in principle," he stated. "But in a number of European countries it's illegal not only to use a detector, but even to have one installed."

Delaney also warned that the Government has held consultations on the prospect of banning camera detectors, a fact which a spokesman for the Association of Chief Police Officers' Road Policing Secretariat confirmed.

The spokesman said: "There's a recommendation that something needs to be done, but creating the primary legislation a ban would require is difficult." Ross Pinnock

JonRB

79,217 posts

294 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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Cars are being fitted with GPS-based SatNav as optional, or even standard, equipment these days.

Surely the next logical step is to have a camera detector module added to this.
They'd have a hard job banning that - the download of waypoint data that happens to correspond to camera locations.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

261 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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Would be good to see the weight of a commercial organisation behing scamera spotters... Might get the governments attention!

Forget the AA, they are now worse than the government in being anti-motorist.

Dibble

13,254 posts

262 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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JonRB said:
They'd have a hard job banning that - the download of waypoint data that happens to correspond to camera locations.


Or as they're also known - accident hotspots...

Be a bit tricky to ban something that would be overtly warning you of an accident hotspot, wouldn't it, because you'd naturally want to take extra care in these areas that are so obviously prone to higher accident rates?

After all, the cameras are supposedly sited in accident hotspots...

[/Devil's_advocate_&_tongue_in_cheek_mode]

JonRB

79,217 posts

294 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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Dibble said:
After all, the cameras are supposedly sited in accident hotspots.
Precisely.

jeremyadamson

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281 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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Chaps - i think care should be taken when considering standard fit detectors/GPS tracking etc. It will merely spur on the speed camera manufacturers to move the game on and develop devices like the 'Camera in Cateye' that I saw a while ago. And presumably, the Govt might start thinking that information on camera locations should be outside the public domain, so that the GPS trackers will not have the data on which to alert us of their presence. J.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

283 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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If the government wanted to kill off the market for speedtrap detectors, all they need to do is set speed limits sensibly.

james_j

3,996 posts

277 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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All I can say is, beware. This is a short step from built-in speed control devices.

puggit

49,430 posts

270 months

Thursday 17th June 2004
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Can these cars be driven abroad?!

JonRB

79,217 posts

294 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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james_j said:
All I can say is, beware. This is a short step from built-in speed control devices.
Good point. Has anyone seen this week's AutoCar?

Standard-fit GPS devices could very easily be foe rather than friend.

r32

401 posts

274 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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Dibble said:


JonRB said:
They'd have a hard job banning that - the download of waypoint data that happens to correspond to camera locations.




Or as they're also known - accident hotspots...

Be a bit tricky to ban something that would be overtly warning you of an accident hotspot, wouldn't it, because you'd naturally want to take extra care in these areas that are so obviously prone to higher accident rates?

After all, the cameras are supposedly sited in accident hotspots...

[/Devil's_advocate_&_tongue_in_cheek_mode]



They managed to prosecute a bloke for warning of 'an accident hotspot'.. cos he was 'obstructing the police in their duty of revenue collection.... ahem

whats the difference when its a device fitted to your car thats warning you??

>> Edited by r32 on Friday 18th June 11:10

tycho

12,111 posts

295 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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r32 said:


They managed to prosecute a bloke for warning of 'an accident hotspot'.. cos he was 'obstructing the police in their duty of revenue collection.... ahem

whats the difference when its a device fitted to your car thats warning you??

>> Edited by r32 on Friday 18th June 11:10


You can't give a machine points and a fine?