Backlash rising...
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PetrolTed

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34,464 posts

325 months

Bonce

4,339 posts

301 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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"Frenzied safety activists are closing their eyes to the diverse real causes of accidents."

Good article. It astonishes me that the most speed-camera'd road in Cambridgshire (the A14 between Cambridge and Huntingdon) has serious accidents on a weekly basis, and quite a few fatals in the last few weeks... but speed is still to blame. Even though the road is so conjested it's rarely possible to drive faster than 50mph during rush hour when all the worst accidents happen.

Apache

39,731 posts

306 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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Nonsense! speed cameras have been saving lives for years now. Results show (from the Safety Partnerships) that in some counties there has been up to a 60% reduction in fatalities. In other regions new estates are springing up around camera sites and people who were killed in previous accidents are coming back to life! Tony Blair has added his approval to these miraculous devices (and we can all trust Tony) so just slow down and start saving lives, if you can't pay the fine don't commit the crime

M@H

11,298 posts

294 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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@ Apache.. nice

gh0st

4,693 posts

280 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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Apache said:
Nonsense! speed cameras have been saving lives for years now. Results show (from the Safety Partnerships) that in some counties there has been up to a 60% reduction in fatalities. In other regions new estates are springing up around camera sites and people who were killed in previous accidents are coming back to life! Tony Blair has added his approval to these miraculous devices (and we can all trust Tony) so just slow down and start saving lives, if you can't pay the fine don't commit the crime


arse

WildCat

8,369 posts

265 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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Apache said:
Nonsense! speed cameras have been saving lives for years now. Results show (from the Safety Partnerships) that in some counties there has been up to a 60% reduction in fatalities. In other regions new estates are springing up around camera sites and people who were killed in previous accidents are coming back to life! Tony Blair has added his approval to these miraculous devices (and we can all trust Tony) so just slow down and start saving lives, if you can't pay the fine don't commit the crime



If Tone says so - must be true!

Perhaps Tone's crones who lurk 'ere had better take note:

We want to rid UK of Weapons of Mass Distraction and dictators!

And we want proper police, proper returns for our taxes - direct and stealth ones, and no more lies

In fact - we want what that journalist above and in "Telegraph" , Ted and others have eloquently arguedon our behalf!

Prats should ignore this at their peril! Voters have long memories!



Munter

31,330 posts

263 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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Article said:
If the mugshot shows the driver is you, it looks like points on the licence




Looks like I'm going to have to drive around dressed as a woman in full makeup and a wig again...."But your honour that is clearly a woman in the photo. I am a man!"

thub

1,359 posts

306 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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There could be a marketing opportunity in Blair and Brunstrom masks.

james_j

3,996 posts

277 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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"...These hyperactive protesters are similarly ignoring other far-reaching side-effects. Frenzied safety activists are closing their eyes to the diverse real causes of accidents..."

That just about says it all really.

They don't want to hear any opposing view, or facts for that matter. What the hell is their real agenda? (I mean those who do not actually have revenue as their prime motive.)

JohnL

1,763 posts

287 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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1. We thought that the general public were too think to understand "complicated" messages.
2. We genuinely thought - out of instinct not by looking at any real research - that speed was the primary cause of death.
3. We'd lose face if we admitted we were wrong, so we don't want to admit to having been wrong so we'll keep to policies that are killing thousands of people a year while claiming we're saving a handful.

Or maybe they're not even that honest?

JohnL

1,763 posts

287 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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In fact, as someone else (Streaky?) posted here a couple of weeks ago, it's about a desire to control people as much as anything else.

chrisgr31

14,199 posts

277 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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james_j said:
"...These hyperactive protesters are similarly ignoring other far-reaching side-effects. Frenzied safety activists are closing their eyes to the diverse real causes of accidents..."

That just about says it all really.

They don't want to hear any opposing view, or facts for that matter. What the hell is their real agenda? (I mean those who do not actually have revenue as their prime motive.)


My guess is that many have had family or friends who have been the victim of a road accident. You only need to think of the recent apparent sympathy and media attention of those who dies on the A23 not long ago. Most of the media attention was on the 5 in the BMW that went through the central reservation, and hit a car travelling slowly in heavy traffic on the other carriageway. Well those in that other car would appear to be totally blameless in this instance. Whether all those in the BMW where blameless will have to wait for the inquest etc.

JohnL

1,763 posts

287 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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chrisgr31 said:

... Well those in that other car would appear to be totally blameless in this instance. Whether all those in the BMW where blameless will have to wait for the inquest etc.

Presumably at least 4 of them were.

M@H

11,298 posts

294 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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JohnL said:

3. We'd lose face if we admitted we were wrong, so we don't want to admit to having been wrong so we'll keep to policies that are killing thousands of people a year while claiming we're saving a handful.

Replace "Face" with "Revenue" and your about there I reckon..

streaky

19,311 posts

271 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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JohnL said:
In fact, as someone else (Streaky?) posted here a couple of weeks ago, it's about a desire to control people as much as anything else.
It's a fair cop (as the villain said about DS McAllister) - www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=102010&f=10&h=0 - Streaky

blademan

493 posts

260 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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streaky said:

JohnL said:
In fact, as someone else (Streaky?) posted here a couple of weeks ago, it's about a desire to control people as much as anything else.

It's a fair cop (as the villain said about DS McAllister) - www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=102010&f=10&h=0 - Streaky


Right on Streaky.......it's all about control.
Trouble is, in our electronic day and age, as time goes by, the authorites have more and more info on us
( Internet Banking, Post Office scanning new tax discs etc )

"Conversion to Communism by digital means"

deltaf

6,806 posts

275 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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Munter said:

Article said:
If the mugshot shows the driver is you, it looks like points on the licence





Looks like I'm going to have to drive around dressed as a woman in full makeup and a wig again...."But your honour that is clearly a woman in the photo. I am a man!"


We only have your word for that....you might be a woman in a wig and trousers with spray-on stubble...

kneegrow

220 posts

278 months

Friday 18th June 2004
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Backlash rising......yep.

I have just been on the phone to my girlfriend. I was driving her old car and someone in her workplace said "I saw your *rather distinct* car going over 30 in a 30 limit" How? She walked past as the coppers in the hedge chatted about it. They didn't chase whoever was driving and so I assume it was with a new fangled camera. I have been done for speeding twice and each time has been in a ridiculously safe situation. This was no exception. (AND I DON'T DRIVE EVERYWHERE WITH BOTH EYES ON MY SPEEDO). If I have to pay a bloody fine and have points thanks to their covert hiding in hedges. It might be time to get some explosives out. I have required the police a few times and what did they say? Words along the line of "We couldn't give a ^%$&, and we're not interested". Well, I have had enough of this bloody victimisation and am going to do something about it. We are beginning to live in a state run by a corrupt dictator and his securitate. I am not going to roll over and let myself be raped by these legal parasitic scum any more. Sorry to the policemen/women which are half decent. Don't like to generalise. The time for backlash is now.

Dave the not dave