Rear ended by bus
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1954etype

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232 posts

192 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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They admit liability and car taken away for repair (light damage). I was told a new bumper would be fitted but instead, they have repaired the original. I'm not happy that my original, one owner (high mileage) car now has a repaired bumper but don't know where I stand on rejecting the repair. (Looks ok now but not sure how will be fare long term).

Anybody got a view?

RevYob

3,560 posts

195 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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Is there anything wrong with the repair?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

225 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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No help what so ever but

I know someone who wrote off a car crashing into the back of a bus

It was a blue bus

It was on top of a hill

He ran into the back of it and his excuse he thought it was a piece of sky as it was blue

vit4

3,507 posts

191 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
No help what so ever but

I know someone who wrote off a car crashing into the back of a bus

It was a blue bus

It was on top of a hill

He ran into the back of it and his excuse he thought it was a piece of sky as it was blue
rofl

He?!

Alx323

421 posts

224 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
No help what so ever but

I know someone who wrote off a car crashing into the back of a bus

It was a blue bus

It was on top of a hill

He ran into the back of it and his excuse he thought it was a piece of sky as it was blue
laugh Brilliant. I hope that went on the insurance form

1954etype

Original Poster:

232 posts

192 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
No help what so ever but

I know someone who wrote off a car crashing into the back of a bus

It was a blue bus

It was on top of a hill

He ran into the back of it and his excuse he thought it was a piece of sky as it was blue
Yep, you're right, no help whatsoever but entertaining! Nothing wrong with the repair that I can see but wory about the long term.

Hora said
"How hard was the impact and roughly what speed? "

Very low speed probably 10mph but the weight of the bus made sure that the bumper was crushed on one side and the panel below the bootlid was badly dented.

"Seems odd that you are rear ended by a large vehicle (at any speed) and a bumper is merely repaired."

That was my view and I feel uncomfortable that my car now has a repaired (bodged?) bumper now. (I was also told by the assessor that they would replace it).

"Cynical here but could it be a case of big bill from repair shop to Insurance company with actual work being lightly done? (big mark up)"

Could be but I think the insurance company are telling the repairer what to do without consulting the customer (ie they were given 3 hours to fix the bumper if I had been told they were going to repair, I would have told them not to carry out the work until we had reached an agreement).



saaby93

32,038 posts

199 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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Whose assessor?
Yours?
Your insurer's?
Their insurer's?

1954etype

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232 posts

192 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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saaby93 said:
Whose assessor?
Yours?
Your insurer's?
Their insurer's?
Yeah, I think I need to reject it. Im just not happy.
Not sure who the assessor was but will establish that today. I just knew this would happen (car also came back with cracked internal trim where they took it off to get to the dent and filler dust in the boot). Lessons learnt:

1. Dont be talked into using their repair company
2. Agree in writing the scope of work before they take the car away
3. Take loads of photos with the assessor

Oh well my fault I suppose, I trusted that they would do a professional job. Should know better!

kambites

70,372 posts

242 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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I was under the impression that third party repairs had to be made entirely using new OEM parts? Might be wrong, though.

Petemate

1,674 posts

212 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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vit4 said:
rofl

He?!
That was WELL funny - could have been that tosser from the Driving School......so could still be a he

1954etype

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232 posts

192 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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hora said:
Is it true that the repairer doesn't get paid until you sign for it? I quibbled a few aspects and the repairer bent over backwards and looked really nervous when I said 'I wont sign yet'.
I think that's true. What I'm going to do is not sign for it and tell them I'm taking it to the BMW repair shop for their assessment on how the repair has been carried out. You just KNOW what the answer will be! I can then use that as my basis for rejection.

1954etype

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232 posts

192 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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hora said:
I don't think you'll be able to take the car without signing off the work.

You could ask for an independent engineer to assess etc. You need to do this asap BEFORE they finish the work IMO. You need to raise an objection now.
Already done. Kicked off the process now. We'll see where this one goes.

saaby93

32,038 posts

199 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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and you need to let them have a second go at repairing it but let them know what youre not happy about so they can do it properly next time.
If they fail the second time tell them you'll take it somewhere else


OperationAlfa

2,014 posts

218 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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Has this even gone through insurance?

1954etype

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192 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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OperationAlfa said:
Has this even gone through insurance?
Yes, the other party was a bus company and my insurer has been talking directly to them.

Hooli

32,278 posts

221 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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1954etype said:
OperationAlfa said:
Has this even gone through insurance?
Yes, the other party was a bus company and my insurer has been talking directly to them.
Bus companies often self insure as far as I'm aware, bet it was bodged up in the back of the bus garage by the same half blind old fool who throws flat square panels at a bus & manages not to line them up.

Starfighter

5,304 posts

199 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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OP - When you say bumper, which bit are you talking about?

Most modern cars have a cosmetic cover that serves no useful purpose in collision protection. Behind this is a structural beam, usually shaped steel to absorb impact and this is mounted to the frame (often with impact absorbing parts). The whole thing is designed to absorb the impact energy by plastic deformation and these cannot be rapaired.. The outer skin often deforms elasticly and "pops" back, cracks and bends can be repaired on these.

There is no way I would accept a repair unless the underlying structural parts have been checked and confirmed to be absolutely perfect. In most cases these parts are relatively cheap as they are consumed in large numbers.

1954etype

Original Poster:

232 posts

192 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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Starfighter said:
OP - When you say bumper, which bit are you talking about?

Most modern cars have a cosmetic cover that serves no useful purpose in collision protection. Behind this is a structural beam, usually shaped steel to absorb impact and this is mounted to the frame (often with impact absorbing parts). The whole thing is designed to absorb the impact energy by plastic deformation and these cannot be rapaired.. The outer skin often deforms elasticly and "pops" back, cracks and bends can be repaired on these.

There is no way I would accept a repair unless the underlying structural parts have been checked and confirmed to be absolutely perfect. In most cases these parts are relatively cheap as they are consumed in large numbers.
It was the top part of the bumper. Apparently they have replaced the parts underneath (shock absorbers?)

Starfighter

5,304 posts

199 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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If it is just a cosmetic skin then I'd be happy with a cosmetic repair.

erdnase

1,963 posts

222 months

Friday 21st October 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
He ran into the back of it and his excuse he thought it was a piece of sky as it was blue
The exact reason why I always have my lights on during the day in my grey car (we don't know what this "blue" sky you talk of is up here in Scotland)