"I've only been gone 10 minutes...."
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Fine with me. What pisses me off though is if you are genuinely delivering or collecting for a few minutes and you get a ticket.. other than that, people who park on the double yellows for the sake of it are normally restricting traffic flow and generally pissing off other motorists IMO.
Fine.... ticket the git if the offence is genuine.
However, there have been examples where local authorities and companies have been pressuring their people to give out tickets, moving cars ad paintiong yellow lines under them and then ticketing them, doctoring video evidence to support their story etc etc. Its all about money in the end.
However, there have been examples where local authorities and companies have been pressuring their people to give out tickets, moving cars ad paintiong yellow lines under them and then ticketing them, doctoring video evidence to support their story etc etc. Its all about money in the end.
Yes...things have taken on a different slant since local governments took over traffic wardens in some towns/cities. Money is a big part now.
The police traffic wardens never used to ticket as many as the council wardens now do.
However, there is such lazy attitude amongst some drivers to getting as close as possible to your destination. If we had drive through supermarkets, they'd be a winner!
If you're picking up something heavy or awkward, leave a note on your dashboard and how long you'll be away. That way you'll save yourself a lot of hassle. However, don't be tempted to lie..I've known wardens wait for the driver to return to see how BIG the parcel actually is.
The police traffic wardens never used to ticket as many as the council wardens now do.
However, there is such lazy attitude amongst some drivers to getting as close as possible to your destination. If we had drive through supermarkets, they'd be a winner!
If you're picking up something heavy or awkward, leave a note on your dashboard and how long you'll be away. That way you'll save yourself a lot of hassle. However, don't be tempted to lie..I've known wardens wait for the driver to return to see how BIG the parcel actually is.
Can tell you have never been to Manchester or Bolton or Bury. 
Manchester - famed for:
1. Giving parking ticket to bus - stopped at bus stop and passengers were getting and getting off bus at the time in Oldham Street in City Centre
2. Issuing over 1000 parking tickets on a Bank Holiday Monday - when parking was "free"
3. Issuing parking ticket to Flopsy Bunny who was parked in her hutch outside pet shop in Salford. She was nonchalantly nibbling carrot at the time. She appealed - and is still waiting to see how many carrots she has to cough up!
4. Issuing parking ticket to bus driver stationary at bus station.
5. Forging photograph of "No Waiting" sign in Bury.
And you wonder why they are disliked so much?
Leaving a little note on dash cuts no ice in this area. They wait. You park up - you walk to ticket dispenser. They have slapped on ticket before you insert the first coin here!
And you wonder why we dislike them so much!
Come to North West! Experience the joys on parking in Manchester.
Then head North - through LanCASH£re. (No b2 allowed and cover your speedo - "feel the speed - Liebchen") and then go further up North - past Shap and down A66. Get zapped by SteveC (who does not allow you your 10% per the V signed pensioner's story!). Then hope your boss is kind enough to let you have that desk job 14 days after you returned to wherever you live!
Can guarantee your wallet will be several pounds lighter from the experience!
Manchester - famed for:
1. Giving parking ticket to bus - stopped at bus stop and passengers were getting and getting off bus at the time in Oldham Street in City Centre
2. Issuing over 1000 parking tickets on a Bank Holiday Monday - when parking was "free"
3. Issuing parking ticket to Flopsy Bunny who was parked in her hutch outside pet shop in Salford. She was nonchalantly nibbling carrot at the time. She appealed - and is still waiting to see how many carrots she has to cough up!
4. Issuing parking ticket to bus driver stationary at bus station.
5. Forging photograph of "No Waiting" sign in Bury.
And you wonder why they are disliked so much?
Leaving a little note on dash cuts no ice in this area. They wait. You park up - you walk to ticket dispenser. They have slapped on ticket before you insert the first coin here!
And you wonder why we dislike them so much!
Come to North West! Experience the joys on parking in Manchester.
Then head North - through LanCASH£re. (No b2 allowed and cover your speedo - "feel the speed - Liebchen") and then go further up North - past Shap and down A66. Get zapped by SteveC (who does not allow you your 10% per the V signed pensioner's story!). Then hope your boss is kind enough to let you have that desk job 14 days after you returned to wherever you live!
Can guarantee your wallet will be several pounds lighter from the experience!
a newspaper said:
A milkman's job is traditionally a lonely one as he goes about his early-morning rounds. But now traffic wardens have become early birds as well - and have issued one milkman with 40 parking tickets in just six months.
a newspaper said:
James Reilly received a £60 demand for a parking ticket in the post the other day. Nothing unusual in that, you might think - but James is only two and the one vehicle he owns is a red and yellow plastic pedal car.
and
The Daily Mail today said:
Parking tickets soar 50% in a year by GORDON RAYNER
Motorists have been hit by a shocking 50 per cent increase in parking fines.
The number of tickets issued outside London rose from 1.4million to 2.1million in a year as more councils called in private wardens.
Motoring groups accused councils of shameless profiteering and using motorists as "easy pickings".
Dramatic rise in tickets
The dramatic rise in tickets was revealed by the National Parking Adjudication Service. Its survey covers every area where councils have taken over responsibility for parking from police, a trend which began ten years ago.
Nearly all use private firms and set them targets for issuing tickets. As a result, firms have been accused of blitzing drivers to ensure they keep the lucrative contracts.
In some areas, wardens have been sacked for failing to meet street quotas.
Tony Vickers, campaign manager at the Association of British Drivers, said: "Motorists are being persecuted for trivial parking offences - it's easy pickings.
"If there is a financial incentive to prosecute people, it is bound to lead to abuses."
Massive increase in revenue
RAC spokesman Susie Haywood said motorists would be angered that spending on public transport has gone down, despite councils' massive increase in revenue from fines.
She said: "People use their cars because they don't feel public transport is convenient, safe or reliable.
"They might expect that the millions from parking fines might be ploughed into public transport to persuade them to leave their cars at home. Until that happens, people will keep relying on their cars and the problem is just going to get worse."
The National Parking Adjudication Service report showed that the number of tickets issued outside London in the year to March 2003 was 2,156,813 - up 50 per cent from the previous year's total of 1,436,530.
Appeals doubled
The number of appeals almost doubled, to 4,500, and two-thirds of them were successful.
They included a bus at a stop in Salford, a funeral limousine outside an undertaker's in Manchester and a woman who spent longer than anticipated in a Poole hospital - because she went into labour.
The service's league table of towns and cities was topped by Birmingham, where 164,000 tickets were issued - more than double the previous year's tally of 73,000.
Brighton came second with 161,000, followed by Manchester with 138,000.
Drivers were least likely to get a ticket in Christchurch, Dorset, where just 592 fell foul of wardens.
The figures for tickets issued outside London have risen sharply each year since 1996, when Winchester became the first provincial council to bring in private parking wardens.
Bitter complaints
Motorists have been complaining bitterly that they are being hounded - or even given unjustified tickets - under the new system.
One of the worst cases was in Manchester, where the city council terminated a £20million contract with the private firm Control Plus after allegations that wardens were indiscriminately handing out tickets to meet quotas.
Staff had been given booklets telling them which streets should yield the biggest tallies. One area was said to have "plenty of potential if worked the right way" and another was "small but productive".
One Control Plus worker handed out 101 tickets in a day - which all had to be cancelled because he forgot it was a bank holiday.
Priorities
Wardens controlled by police issue far fewer tickets, as their priority is to keep traffic moving.
Despite the sharp rise in tickets in the provinces, London wardens still issue twice as many as the rest of the country put together.
Figures already published for London showed 4.9million tickets issued there, taking the nationwide total above seven million.
But the annual increase in the capital was just 172,000 because London boroughs began employing private firms as soon as it was allowed by law in 1994, so the streets have been swamped by wardens for years.
'Nuf sed?
Streaky
people who park in motorbike bays at supermarkets...people who park in disabled bays in supermarkets.....people who park on hatchings, in front of schools/crossing etc. Psople who have parked in a way which shows they genuinely believe they're the only important people on the planet.
All these people should be dealt with as harshly as possible. Rocket-propelled mortors would be one of my choices.
Oh, and the same goes for people who think that shopping trolleys come with a magic homing device which takes them back to the collection point automatically.
>> Edited by Nightmare on Monday 21st June 16:27
All these people should be dealt with as harshly as possible. Rocket-propelled mortors would be one of my choices.
Oh, and the same goes for people who think that shopping trolleys come with a magic homing device which takes them back to the collection point automatically.
>> Edited by Nightmare on Monday 21st June 16:27
Just to throw it back at you streetcop.
There's a pedestrian crossing just arround the corner from where I live, and there's a 50/50 chance that everytime I walk past it there's some idiot parked on the zig zags, or even over the crossing.
Having seen 2 people is as many months nearly get runover on the crossing, how do I get some action taken. I thought this was a driving without due care type of offence.
I have a growing collection of photos on my phobile moan clearly showing cars parked on the crossing, as the drivers are too sodding lazy to walk the 50 yards from the free carpark to the off liscence and curry house situated near the crossing.
And on your original question. Illegal parking really pees me off. People are just so lazy
There's a pedestrian crossing just arround the corner from where I live, and there's a 50/50 chance that everytime I walk past it there's some idiot parked on the zig zags, or even over the crossing.
Having seen 2 people is as many months nearly get runover on the crossing, how do I get some action taken. I thought this was a driving without due care type of offence.
I have a growing collection of photos on my phobile moan clearly showing cars parked on the crossing, as the drivers are too sodding lazy to walk the 50 yards from the free carpark to the off liscence and curry house situated near the crossing.
And on your original question. Illegal parking really pees me off. People are just so lazy
Inconsiderate, lazy, and dangerous parking is fair game. If someone puts others at risk or inconvenience because they are too bone idle to walk or too tight to pay then they deserve a ticket. I think the phrase is "cashpoint cripple"...
Similarly, any form of charged parking is unworkable without a meaningful deterrent against non-payment.
BUT
"Decriminalised" parking enforcement is fundamentally wrong and corrupt, as it leads to unacceptable conflicts of interest, the same as allowing Scamera partnerships to finance themselves out of speeding tickets. A good example is the way that local authorities introduce needless restrictions in order to boost ticket revenue both for their car parks and their wardens.
On street parking enforcement should be solely aimed at keeping the roads clear and safe, not at making money. Similarly, shady practices in car parks such as nabbing people for parking with a wheel touching the white line etc are not on.
Similarly, any form of charged parking is unworkable without a meaningful deterrent against non-payment.
BUT
"Decriminalised" parking enforcement is fundamentally wrong and corrupt, as it leads to unacceptable conflicts of interest, the same as allowing Scamera partnerships to finance themselves out of speeding tickets. A good example is the way that local authorities introduce needless restrictions in order to boost ticket revenue both for their car parks and their wardens.
On street parking enforcement should be solely aimed at keeping the roads clear and safe, not at making money. Similarly, shady practices in car parks such as nabbing people for parking with a wheel touching the white line etc are not on.
wilkoj said:
Just to throw it back at you streetcop.
There's a pedestrian crossing just arround the corner from where I live, and there's a 50/50 chance that everytime I walk past it there's some idiot parked on the zig zags, or even over the crossing.
Having seen 2 people is as many months nearly get runover on the crossing, how do I get some action taken. I thought this was a driving without due care type of offence.
Hi Wilkoj
The offence for the above is:
Parking within the confines of a zebra/pelican crossing.
If I see it, I always stop and always ticket the driver; 3 points and 60 fine everytime..
The car on zig zags blocks the view of approaching drivers and therefore puts pedestrians, especially children, at risk. Not acceptable and the culprits never get a verbal warning from me...Fixed penalty every time..
Streetcop said:
Just to throw it back at you streetcop.
There's a pedestrian crossing just arround the corner from where I live, and there's a 50/50 chance that everytime I walk past it there's some idiot parked on the zig zags, or even over the crossing.
Having seen 2 people is as many months nearly get runover on the crossing, how do I get some action taken. I thought this was a driving without due care type of offence.
Hi Wilkoj
The offence for the above is:
Parking within the confines of a zebra/pelican crossing.
If I see it, I always stop and always ticket the driver; 3 points and 60 fine everytime..
The car on zig zags blocks the view of approaching drivers and therefore puts pedestrians, especially children, at risk. Not acceptable and the culprits never get a verbal warning from me...Fixed penalty every time..
Glad to hear you did something worthwhile today - Liebchen!
. Poor parking - one of my pet hates - after all - gives us girlies a bad name! Can park up on proverbial five penny piece by the way! But what if it is a talivan twit parking illegally that way? They do - you know! Seen it for myself!
Suppose that is alright - though! After all - got to have justification ---- "think of the children"!
And all that lovely money! To buy new posh office furniture with! All those 31-35mph-ers mowing down the kid they cannot see because van has obscured the pelican crossing! Have come across these twits --- in my driveway (they think it is entrance to some field or other)
On double yellows
On a yellow school "no parking" box
on pelican zig zags....
.... and you wonder why my patience has now worn thin!
Do you ever bang these people to rights?
If I approach them - they would threaten me with obstructing the course of justice or summat! Oh - and then - tonight - there was the POLICE CAR! Traffic police car and not the pretzel in the panda --- parked in disabled slot outside my local Tesco's this evening.
But this guy was not content with one bay ..Oh No No No-OH!! He had to park across TWO! In the meantime - poor elderly lady with disabled sticker had to park some distance away from store. Fortunately, my kids are nice polite ones - and carried all her bags for her once she had completed her shopping.
And you wonder why patience wears thin with some of you lot!
If the twazak in question - posts here - hope he (or she?) Nah - gotta be a man!
) reads it and feels my claws in his neck over it! Should be ashamed of himself for parking in disabled bay! At any time! Disabled could be insomniacs who like to shop when it is quiet! WildCat said:
Oh - and then - tonight - there was the POLICE CAR! Traffic police car and not the pretzel in the panda --- parked in disabled slot outside my local Tesco's this evening.
And you wonder why patience wears thin with some of you lot!
If the twazak in question - posts here - hope he (or she?) Nah - gotta be a man!
If the copper parked in a disable bay in such a fashion only to go in and buy some groceries, he deserves all he gets. Report the registration to the police station.
However....don't always jump to conclusion...if he was responding to a violent shoplifter that had been detained and was in the security office or warehouse part of the building, then his parking in such a fashion would be excusable...
Just a wider angle of thought, that must be explored before the 'we pay are taxes' brigade come out shouting..
Streetcop said:
If the copper parked in a disable bay in such a fashion only to go in and buy some groceries, he deserves all he gets. Report the registration to the police station.
Kids did not take photo this time - Liebchen. Streetcop said:
However....don't always jump to conclusion...if he was responding to a violent shoplifter that had been detained and was in the security office or warehouse part of the building, then his parking in such a fashion would be excusable...
If indeed "on the job" - then yes! However...... we saw cop buying his fags, a bag of doughnuts and a copy of "Classic Cars" at one of the tills!
Was prepared to let him off over the purchase of a worthy read! [quote=Streetcop"]
Just a wider angle of thought, that must be explored before the 'we pay are taxes' brigade come out shouting..[/quote]
I am entitled to shout - my privilege as "I pay your wages!"
Besides you lot keep bangin' on about "we are super duper drivers who are trained to this level and that level - and you "criminals" wot pays our wages are right numpties"!
Thus consider it my bounded duty to come on here and take a pop over a parking technique which could only be bettered by a chav or a mumpty on a superlatively bad hair and parking day!
Streetcop said:
If the copper parked in a disable bay in such a fashion only to go in and buy some groceries, he deserves all he gets. Report the registration to the police station.
Kids did not take photo this time - Liebchen. Streetcop said:
However....don't always jump to conclusion...if he was responding to a violent shoplifter that had been detained and was in the security office or warehouse part of the building, then his parking in such a fashion would be excusable...
If indeed "on the job" - then yes! However...... we saw cop buying his fags, a bag of doughnuts and a copy of "Classic Cars" at one of the tills!
Was prepared to let him off over the purchase of a worthy read! Streetcop said:
Just a wider angle of thought, that must be explored before the 'we pay are taxes' brigade come out shouting..
I am entitled to shout - my privilege as "I pay your wages!"
Besides you lot keep bangin' on about "we are super duper drivers who are trained to this level and that level - and you "criminals" wot pays our wages are right numpties"!
Thus consider it my bounded duty to come on here and take a pop over a parking technique which could only be equalled by a chav or a mumpty on a superlatively bad hair and parking day!
>> Edited by WildCat on Tuesday 22 June 10:12
>> Edited by WildCat on Tuesday 22 June 10:14
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