Parking ticket for parking next to a dropped kerb
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I was recently parked by a drop kerb over a weekend and returned to my car to find it with 2 parking tickets.
I was actually unaware it was an offence to park across a drop kerb unless it was blocking a driveway. This was not, although admittedly there is an access to some bins, set back from the pavement.
I parked there in the dark, and there is no clear yellow line painted. Does there need to be?
Anything I can do?
I was actually unaware it was an offence to park across a drop kerb unless it was blocking a driveway. This was not, although admittedly there is an access to some bins, set back from the pavement.
I parked there in the dark, and there is no clear yellow line painted. Does there need to be?
Anything I can do?
Pay the tickets.
Move on with life.
You could write a letter to the parking chaps saying that it's not fair and you shouldn't have to pay.
They might take your side in the matter – they might not.
I've got off a parking ticket before for blocking a road – I argued I parked there first and it was the other car opposite who caused the blockage.
I'm not sure if you have any chance of arguing along the same lines though.
Move on with life.
You could write a letter to the parking chaps saying that it's not fair and you shouldn't have to pay.
They might take your side in the matter – they might not.
I've got off a parking ticket before for blocking a road – I argued I parked there first and it was the other car opposite who caused the blockage.
I'm not sure if you have any chance of arguing along the same lines though.
BongoCaterham said:
I was recently parked by a drop kerb over a weekend and returned to my car to find it with 2 parking tickets.
I was actually unaware it was an offence to park across a drop kerb unless it was blocking a driveway. This was not, although admittedly there is an access to some bins, set back from the pavement.
I parked there in the dark, and there is no clear yellow line painted. Does there need to be?
Anything I can do?
I don't think a dropped kerb needs yellow lines to be enforcable. Bear in mind dropped kerbs are often used to facilitate prams/wheelchairs crossing a road as well as access across the pavement.I was actually unaware it was an offence to park across a drop kerb unless it was blocking a driveway. This was not, although admittedly there is an access to some bins, set back from the pavement.
I parked there in the dark, and there is no clear yellow line painted. Does there need to be?
Anything I can do?
I think you just have to suck it up and pay the tickets.
Your possible escape clauses as I see it are both invalid.
You can park alongside a dropped kerb if you have the permission of the property owner and presumably this wasn't valid in this case..
There is also a get out of jail chance on appeal if you can prove that the dropped kerb is no longer used / necessary. Again presumably it's there for the bins so again no chance imo.
Apologies for not giving you a get out, but at least hope have explained why you are in this position rather than adopting the attitude shown in prev responses.
You can park alongside a dropped kerb if you have the permission of the property owner and presumably this wasn't valid in this case..
There is also a get out of jail chance on appeal if you can prove that the dropped kerb is no longer used / necessary. Again presumably it's there for the bins so again no chance imo.
Apologies for not giving you a get out, but at least hope have explained why you are in this position rather than adopting the attitude shown in prev responses.
didn't really want to get involved ,but perhaps my scenario might just give the OP a reason . I don't have a dropped kerb at mine as it's constantly use by "customers" at an address across the road .My son,renting a house with a dropped kerb ,constantly has his neighbours/"customers"/"suppliers" parking accross his access . If however LA get funny about my "illegal " parking I might have to park my car in son's front overnight to keep my insurance discount ( and be a good citazen keeping emergency access to a narrow street).
So ,perhaps a bit more of this ,then those "myopic" motorists who don't see gates/cars parked in drives/dropped kerbs mght just get their sight back .
IT'S CALLED BEING A CONSIDERATE MOTORIST .
So ,perhaps a bit more of this ,then those "myopic" motorists who don't see gates/cars parked in drives/dropped kerbs mght just get their sight back .
IT'S CALLED BEING A CONSIDERATE MOTORIST .
[quote=Who me ?]didn't really want to get involved ,but perhaps my scenario might just give the OP a reason . I don't have a dropped kerb at mine as it's constantly use by "customers" at an address across the road .My son,renting a house with a dropped kerb ,constantly has his neighbours/"customers"/"suppliers" parking accross his access . If however LA get funny about my "illegal " parking I might have to park my car in son's front overnight to keep my insurance discount ( and be a good citazen keeping emergency access to a narrow street).
So ,perhaps a bit more of this ,then those "myopic" motorists who don't see gates/cars parked in drives/dropped kerbs mght just get their sight back .
IT'S CALLED BEING A CONSIDERATE MOTORIST .
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This made less sense than calling a Greek referendum.
So ,perhaps a bit more of this ,then those "myopic" motorists who don't see gates/cars parked in drives/dropped kerbs mght just get their sight back .
IT'S CALLED BEING A CONSIDERATE MOTORIST .
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This made less sense than calling a Greek referendum.
Seti said:
walm said:
This made less sense than calling a Greek referendum.
Clearly misinformed about the law as he states he knew that one should not park opposite a dropped kerb for vehicular access to premises, but wasn't aware it also applied to pedestrian access, and in this case to allow access to bins, presumably to allow them to be wheeled to the collection truck. Also thought that absence of lines was significant. Let's face it the powers that be don't help themselves by liberally spraying white lines in front of entrances in some places and not others, even when technically the same rules apply, one can forgive people for being confused.
I assume, and could of course be wrong, that the OP parked there because of he didn't fully understand the provisions of the Traffic Management Act, plus there was nowhere else to park and it just wasn't a case of doing it for giggles or being lazy not prepared to walk another 20 yards. Obviously if my assumptions are wrong then the fine is a salutary lesson in several ways.
[quote=Who me ?]didn't really want to get involved ,but perhaps my scenario might just give the OP a reason . I don't have a dropped kerb at mine as it's constantly use by "customers" at an address across the road .My son,renting a house with a dropped kerb ,constantly has his neighbours/"customers"/"suppliers" parking accross his access . If however LA get funny about my "illegal " parking I might have to park my car in son's front overnight to keep my insurance discount ( and be a good citazen keeping emergency access to a narrow street).
So ,perhaps a bit more of this ,then those "myopic" motorists who don't see gates/cars parked in drives/dropped kerbs mght just get their sight back .
IT'S CALLED BEING A CONSIDERATE MOTORIST .
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You don't have a dropped kerb because your house is being used by one of your neighbours' customers.
Your son does have a dropped kerb, and his customers, suppliers, and neighbours all block it.
You park somewhere illegally under normal circumstances (where?)
Your insurance company gives you a discount for parking across your son's dropped kerb.
Have I got this right?
So ,perhaps a bit more of this ,then those "myopic" motorists who don't see gates/cars parked in drives/dropped kerbs mght just get their sight back .
IT'S CALLED BEING A CONSIDERATE MOTORIST .
[/quote]
You don't have a dropped kerb because your house is being used by one of your neighbours' customers.
Your son does have a dropped kerb, and his customers, suppliers, and neighbours all block it.
You park somewhere illegally under normal circumstances (where?)
Your insurance company gives you a discount for parking across your son's dropped kerb.
Have I got this right?
Mr GrimNasty said:
I see from your profile you are in London? Pay the fine, you have no defence whatsoever. It's your own fault for not keeping up with (now old) changes to the regulations!
....& from my limited observations of London parking police your parking infringement ensured one was made to feel important accepted integrated & recognised, so be glad for him or her. It is worth reminding some people on here what a dropped kerb is
It is ONLY the part of the kerb that has been lowered to that of the highway
A dropped kerb DOES NOT include the sloping portions each side
Therefore many London Tribunals where the car does not impinged on the lowered section no offence has been committe has dismissed the ticket
If fact if you drove an original Mini or a car with a very short body overhang front or rear, you could have the wheel adjacent to to the sloping part and still be within the law
Where there has been an overenthusiastic warden who has issued a ticket as part of the overhang is over the dropped portion, by 6 inches it has been overturned on appeal by 'De Minimus'
Which in basic english means 'The warden is a nit picking t
t and should not have issued it'
Hope all that helps and Happy New year
It is ONLY the part of the kerb that has been lowered to that of the highway
A dropped kerb DOES NOT include the sloping portions each side
Therefore many London Tribunals where the car does not impinged on the lowered section no offence has been committe has dismissed the ticket
If fact if you drove an original Mini or a car with a very short body overhang front or rear, you could have the wheel adjacent to to the sloping part and still be within the law
Where there has been an overenthusiastic warden who has issued a ticket as part of the overhang is over the dropped portion, by 6 inches it has been overturned on appeal by 'De Minimus'
Which in basic english means 'The warden is a nit picking t
t and should not have issued it'Hope all that helps and Happy New year
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