Newbie here with possibly intresting letter from BIB
Newbie here with possibly intresting letter from BIB
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PDT1

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26 posts

170 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Good afternoon to you all in ph land. New member here so please be gentle. I have been a long term lurker, and have decided to take the plunge and join the community.

There is currently a thread running (and I know there have been many others in the past)regarding the saving of spaces outside peoples houses, and therefore mods please feel free to move this to the current thread running in SP&L, and I thought that the ph world might be intrested in a letter that has recently been circulated by BIB to residents in the area I live in.

Unfortunately I am unable to scan this at the moment but the important / relevant part is "I would like to advise all residents that it is an offence to wilfully obstruct the highway and we will be patrolling the area on a regular basis and should we come accross any obstruction in the road we will remove it and return the items to the owner and appropriate action will be taken."

I hope that this is a useful first post, and as said earlier please be gentle.

Paul

GTDNB

791 posts

191 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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PDT1 said:
Good afternoon to you all in ph land. New member here so please be gentle. I have been a long term lurker, and have decided to take the plunge and join the community.

There is currently a thread running (and I know there have been many others in the past)regarding the saving of spaces outside peoples houses, and therefore mods please feel free to move this to the current thread running in SP&L, and I thought that the ph world might be intrested in a letter that has recently been circulated by BIB to residents in the area I live in.

Unfortunately I am unable to scan this at the moment but the important / relevant part is "I would like to advise all residents that it is an offence to wilfully obstruct the highway and we will be patrolling the area on a regular basis and should we come accross any obstruction in the road we will remove it and return the items to the owner and appropriate action will be taken."

I hope that this is a useful first post, and as said earlier please be gentle.

Paul
thanks. this is just what i was looking for. i will mention it to the next PC i see walking past.

RichyBoy

3,744 posts

238 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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If only it was true for my area, theres someone blocking my driveway right now smile

I wish they would ask permission.

PDT1

Original Poster:

26 posts

170 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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I thought standard ph response to that problem was a couple of trolley jacks.

PDT1

Original Poster:

26 posts

170 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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I thought standard ph response to that problem was a couple of trolley jacks.

Vulgar LS2

1,785 posts

204 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Surely it's not about saving spaces outside peoples houses, it's about not blocking the road or access.

PDT1

Original Poster:

26 posts

170 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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I did not reproduce the whole letter from BIB, but in it they state "we understand that there is a problem with parking in the area however due to the great inconvenience and danger this causes to other road users the matter needs to be addressed."

Apparently, this is all in response to reports received of "...wheelie bins and other objects such as bicycles which are placed in the road." It then goes on to say "It is thought this practice is being done in an attempt to save parking spaces in the road."


saaby93

32,038 posts

199 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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PDT1 said:
I did not reproduce the whole letter from BIB, but in it they state "we understand that there is a problem with parking in the area however due to the great inconvenience and danger this causes to other road users the matter needs to be addressed."

Apparently, this is all in response to reports received of "...wheelie bins and other objects such as bicycles which are placed in the road." It then goes on to say "It is thought this practice is being done in an attempt to save parking spaces in the road."
Useful
In a previous thread we didnt come to any conclusion about it being illegal to permanently park a caravan, shed on wheels, shed not on wheels, as a means of claiming a piece of road as your own parking place whther or not you lived in the adjacent house .

willis1337

428 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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It's a heads up that anyone double parking will get ticketed (£60) by the BIB, or towed away. The BIB will operate this at all hours when whatever neighbour highlighted the "problem" to them, calls them up again when anyone is double parked. The BIB will justify this by saying double parking may stop the emergency services attending any emergency call.

Don't worry, just park in front of any driveway, as long as you are not blocking any vehicle in (only out) they can legally do nothing. If you're blocking them in you could be towed but the BIB don't like doing this - it's a last resort, they will pop round the reg address of the owner and ask them to move, if they can be bothered while taking time out from ticking and towing all the double parked vehicles.

If a parking space is blocked by a wheelie bin or bicycle lying in the road you are free to move it, unless there's any realistic reason like a skip being delivered or removal lorry, but even then it's down to you.

Edited by willis1337 on Saturday 5th November 10:57

vonhosen

40,597 posts

238 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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willis1337 said:
It's a heads up that anyone double parking will get ticketed (£60) by the BIB, or towed away. The BIB will operate this at all hours when whatever neighbour highlighted the "problem" to them, calls them up again when anyone is double parked. The BIB will justify this by saying double parking may stop the emergency services attending any emergency call.

Don't worry, just park in front of any driveway, as long as you are not blocking any vehicle in (only out) they can legally do nothing. If you're blocking them in you could be towed but the BIB don't like doing this - it's a last resort, they will pop round the reg address of the owner and ask them to move, if they can be bothered while taking time out from ticking and towing all the double parked vehicles.

If a parking space is blocked by a wheelie bin or bicycle lying in the road you are free to move it, unless there's any realistic reason like a skip being delivered or removal lorry, but even then it's down to you.
A lot of councils have the specific PCN offence of parking across a dropped kerb. No need for any involvement by the Police (to identify the driver, or show that somebody was obstructed) council warden on a moped pops around a leaves the registered keeper a bill.

willis1337

428 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Really, brilliant, what councils do that? I want to move there.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

238 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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willis1337 said:
Really, brilliant, what councils do that? I want to move there.
Lots of councils, ask yours.

willis1337

428 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Nope, not down here in the City of Brighton & Hove. I suspect you may be thinking where the driveway is in a resident's parking area or city centre. But then you wouldn't have a white line, you'd have double yellows, which would allow a PCN. A white line is NOT enforceable according to my local council's paperwork.

willis1337

428 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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vonhosen

40,597 posts

238 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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willis1337 said:
Nope, not down here in the City of Brighton & Hove. I suspect you may be thinking where the driveway is in a resident's parking area or city centre. But then you wouldn't have a white line, you'd have double yellows, which would allow a PCN. A white line is NOT enforceable according to my local council's paperwork.
You don't need any line across the dropped kerb (white or yellow). Some councils may not choose to enforce, but that's not the same everywhere.

http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/index.cfm?request=...

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 5th November 11:41

willis1337

428 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Can you give me an example of where?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

238 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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See your council above smile

willis1337

428 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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oops sorry didn't click on your link. Aren't those dropped kerbs (with the tactile paving) for pedestrians, so yes those would be enforceable. However a dropped kerb for a private driveway wouldn't be, so many people ignore these and park over them, as there's nothing you can do if you're blocked out.

saaby93

32,038 posts

199 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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willis1337 said:
Is anyone able to open the operational guidance?

http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/downloads/bhcc/par...

Maybe its the '@' sign


willis1337

428 posts

187 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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Nope, usual really with BHCC. Interesting to note the conflicting information on their site highlighted by links above re dropped kerbs though.