Mercedes courtesy car-too young to have one!!
Mercedes courtesy car-too young to have one!!
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bigee

Original Poster:

1,496 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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My nephew owns a Merc coupe,broke down,recovered,taken to main dealer-all under warranty.The car will be off the road for up to 10 days.Part of the warranty is to be given a courtesy car for this duration,he has been told however that he is too young (19)as their contract with their rental company states no under 23's.Nowhere is this stated in his warranty,surely they are legally bound to supply him with a car?The way i see it is that his contract is with them and nothing to do with their contract with the rental company.Oh yes,they are prepared to loan him one of their own cars but none is available for....you guessed it 10 days!!!

dontlift

9,396 posts

280 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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If it is not stated as a term of the warranty that formed part of the sale then it is solicitor time.

plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Mercedes Head Office time...

woodytvr

623 posts

268 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Hammer time - Sorry couldn't resist

bigee

Original Poster:

1,496 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Have spoken to Merc UK,and have been bounced around various depts,they basically say they will try and get the dealer concerned to come up with something as a good will gesture! Very generous me thinks not.

bigee

Original Poster:

1,496 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Forgot to say Merc UK told me that this was pretty standard policy for most manufacturers,so it would seem that if you are in the fortunate position to buy a new 'quality' car and are under 23 then you too will be excluded from having a replacement vehicle when yours inevitably breaks down!

plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Get yer man to point out that he was considering moving up in the food chain...

Nothing motivates manufacturers like the prospect of a sale...

john_p

7,073 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Certainly not true for BMW - although I wonder if it is down to the individual dealership's arrangement with their insurer?

mcflurry

9,184 posts

275 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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why not offer to insure it on his own policy?

Assuming the courtesy car is a similar spec to existing car then it should only be an admin fee, or even free. Mrs Mcf had the same issue with Mercedes and was covered by her own insurance company for £5.95 for 3 days


KITT

5,345 posts

263 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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bigee said:
Forgot to say Merc UK told me that this was pretty standard policy for most manufacturers,so it would seem that if you are in the fortunate position to buy a new 'quality' car and are under 23 then you too will be excluded from having a replacement vehicle when yours inevitably breaks down!

That's utter bollocks! I've had a couple of Seat courtesy cars when I took mine in for a service at the Seat dealership I brought it from. Also, a mate has a new BMW Compact and they gave him a fully loaded Cooper S to play with while his was serviced (we were both under 23 at that time).

streaky

19,311 posts

271 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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bigee said:
Forgot to say Merc UK told me that this was pretty standard policy for most manufacturers,so it would seem that if you are in the fortunate position to buy a new 'quality' car and are under 23 then you too will be excluded from having a replacement vehicle when yours inevitably breaks down!
It might be "policy", but if it doesn't state that in the contract between the seller (dealer) and buyer then it's not applicable.

Check the small print and if there's no mention of this exclusion, start talking big.

Check whether the dealer is a member of the local Chamber of Commerce; if so, have a word with them.

The trouble is, all this could take ... 10 days .

Streaky

bigee

Original Poster:

1,496 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Have just got news that they are loaning him an A class tomorrow but that he has to insure it himself.Was told that everyone has to do so with their courtesy cars....this is not my experiance with Audi etc,is this a Merc thing?or are they still talking rubbish?

onedsla

1,135 posts

278 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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My father is on his 9th Merc and has never had to insure his courtesy car himself.

rude girl

6,937 posts

281 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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I assume they're reducing his next bill by the amount it costs him to insure himself, plus a little bit extra "as an act of goodwill"?

If they can't offer equal quality of service to younger customers, maybe they should consider not taking their money in the first place, and restrict themselves to dealing with older people.

blueyes

4,799 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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My nephew had the same problem with BMW. He just phoned his insurance company and asked for a temporary transfer of the policy to the courtesy car. No charge.

bigee

Original Poster:

1,496 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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It appears that he has to insure it himself due to his age again!their policy/insurance excludes under 21's.Their suggestion is that he switches his policy to cover the loan car,my question is why should he?Should we push further or settle for the fact that he is at least mobile?

woodytvr

623 posts

268 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Okay, some points here. Some BMW dealerships do require you to insure their courtesy cars on your own insurance (Rydale Sutton for one).

I've had BMW's since I was 19 (all company cars until recently, I'm 28 now and buy my own lol) and had the same thing when I destroyed my 328 Sport in a flood (lorry coming the other way tidel waved me - new engine required).

However the dealership doesn't lend you the car when it's not a routine service, it's booked through the warranty/breakdown cover, which in BMW's case is Mondial and they use Enterprise for the car hire. So the problem lies with the hire company and their policy, not BMW.

As others have said you could stick it on your own policy if they'll let you, but the situation is wrong especially if there is an admin charge. However personally I'd prefer to use my own insurance as if the worse should happen you won't have a £500 excess.

I was lucky with mine as at the time we'd just laid off a Director so I used his car - It was the obvious answer without thinking about sticking loan cars on the company policy etc. - So at 19 I spent 4 months (yeah that's how long the insurance took to sort it out) driving around in a brand new Jaguar XJR - not that my 328 Sport wasn't bad.

So I'd take their offer but perhaps look at blagging a free service or something as they can't provide a service you have paid for.

wanty1974

3,704 posts

270 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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For the sake of getting on the road again, I would accept the courtesy car and inform them by letter (record delivery or they sign for it if you take it in) that you are insuring the car yourself under protest and will be persuing Merc for any administration or addition premium charges should they arise, in light of Merc not meeting with its warranty commitment in full.

That'll cheer them up (and get your nephew on the road).

Nightmare

5,277 posts

306 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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woodytvr said:
Hammer time - Sorry couldn't resist

absolute bastard - now need a new keyboard - coffee in this one!

Nightmare

5,277 posts

306 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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oh, and FWIW, I used to get courtesy cars from Lotus and LL without having to worry. I reckon that in the last year I've had to get cover, under my ins, for all the courtesy cars. The garages have said that a lot of the companies are chnaging policy because so many people stuff courtesy cars (unfamiliarity probably, seeing as LL once gave me a sodding Vitara!)