car thieves and death
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Streetcop

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5,907 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Recent vehicle pursuit in a northern town....

'bandit' vehicle crashes whilst police in pursuit..

Juvenile passenger of 'bandit' vehicle died at the scene..

Your views please PHs..........

dontlift

9,396 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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What a shame - one less to worry about

JMGS4

8,881 posts

292 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Darwinian theory was proven correct, again!

Drive like a twat, get twatted!

blademan

493 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Streetcop said:
Recent vehicle pursuit in a northern town....

'bandit' vehicle crashes whilst police in pursuit..

Juvenile passenger of 'bandit' vehicle died at the scene..

Your views please PHs..........



Provided the chase was authorised, and the Police were not directly to blame ( did a maneavore that was dangerous and caused the accident ) then no problem with this. When someone nicks a car, then they persumably know they will be chased and so they have only themselves to blame. Shame though.......think of all the taxpayers money they have saved through not going to court etc
Shame it wasn't the driver that bought it though

>> Edited by blademan on Thursday 24th June 10:18

>> Edited by blademan on Thursday 24th June 10:19

RichardD

3,608 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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As long as no innocent parties were hurt...

I'd guess that many people would here feel that it is a shame that it wasn't the actual thief that got it.

While this is no doubt a harsh view, I reckon it comes about due to peoples thoughts of the governments view on car crime....

Edited to add - a few people above seem to have missed the PASSENGER bit!

>> Edited by RichardD on Thursday 24th June 10:19

JMGS4

8,881 posts

292 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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dontlift said:
Nope hadnt missed that and they are both equally guilty of the crime in my book, but would be interested to know if the driver would be charged with the manslaughter of the passenger??


Tenessee law states 25 years to life for "vehicular manslaughter", IMHO cheaper to top 'em!!!! Pity it doesn't work here........

dontlift

9,396 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Nope hadnt missed the passenger bit and they are both equally guilty of the crime in my book, but would be interested to know if the driver would be charged with the manslaughter of the passenger??

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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I'm led to believe the incident was in Scotland...

Don

28,378 posts

306 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Streetcop said:
Recent vehicle pursuit in a northern town....

'bandit' vehicle crashes whilst police in pursuit..

Juvenile passenger of 'bandit' vehicle died at the scene..

Your views please PHs..........


I have mixed views on this topic. Whilst if the police do not enter into a pursuit the driver may not have tried so hard, avoided having the accident and a young life not been lost the problem is that the "scrote" driver would now believe that almost any behaviour is acceptable because the police appear not to be bothered about catching him.

Its a difficult dilemma for the police - to pursue or not.

I err on the side of pursuit. Honest citizens have nothing to fear as they will pull over should the blues and twos appear behind them...those determined to run will find themselves pursued until caught - which is a deterrent to others trying the same...

Of course, when innocent parties are injured or killed or have their property damaged is it highly regrettable - but I'm sure that the cops do their utmost to minimise danger to the public...

mcflurry

9,184 posts

275 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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A car was stolen near me, driver then went 70+ mph in a 30 and killed himself. There was no direct police intervention (they were enroute but not there at time)
What a shame. Not.

Streetcop

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5,907 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Thanks McFlurry good post.

Highlighting the fact that car thieves will drive dangerously like knobs even without policecars behind them.

Cars are nicked by joyriders to drive fast and practice high speed stuff...they don't nick cars to polish up their 3-point turns, or reversing around a corner skills, do they..

catchmeifucan

11 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Wouldn't be Hull by any chance...............

Scroates .....ages from 12+ used to play snooker nick a red car , then colour and burn the black one .

b###%Rds came round our way once to nick the Q ball ,

white GTE .........couldn't get past the alarm so caused damage to the locks.etc.....

if it was them , id send some flowers..........

poison ivy..........

deadly nightshade..........

no message !~!!!!

blademan

493 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Streetcop said:
Thanks McFlurry good post.

Highlighting the fact that car thieves will drive dangerously like knobs even without policecars behind them.

Cars are nicked by joyriders to drive fast and practice high speed stuff...they don't nick cars to polish up their 3-point turns, or reversing around a corner skills, do they..


Streetcop
Bet you didn't expect so many people to side with Plod on this one?

Streetcop

Original Poster:

5,907 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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I did actually..I'm beginning to think you lot are right wing...

I wonder what would have been the reaction if the car had been legit and the driver had sped past a roadside speed gun and not wanting to get points; had 'done one' and failed to stop??

blademan

493 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Streetcop said:
I did actually..I'm beginning to think you lot are right wing...

I wonder what would have been the reaction if the car had been legit and the driver had sped past a roadside speed gun and not wanting to get points; had 'done one' and failed to stop??

You know the answer to that one before I say it don't you.
Legit car+Scam+Runner=not as bad as scrote in nicked car

Streetcop

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5,907 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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I suppost not..but a lot of lives at stake for the sake of 3 points..eh?

Anyway..I'm deviating from my original thread...

sorry..lets carry on with the real story...

>> Edited by Streetcop on Thursday 24th June 10:58

JMGS4

8,881 posts

292 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Streetcop said:
I did actually..I'm beginning to think you lot are right wing...


Naah, just that Vlad the Impaler and Ghengis Khan are our forebears, that bunch of soft lefties!

tja

1,175 posts

276 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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I agree with JMGS4, it's Darwinism at work. One less scrote to worry about.

Surely they must have known the car was stolen when they got into the passenger seat. If they hadn't joined in with the joyriding then they'd still be here.

Mark Benson

8,263 posts

291 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Streetcop said:
Thanks McFlurry good post.

Highlighting the fact that car thieves will drive dangerously like knobs even without policecars behind them.

Cars are nicked by joyriders to drive fast and practice high speed stuff...they don't nick cars to polish up their 3-point turns, or reversing around a corner skills, do they..



....and at least with a highly visible and audible plod car behind them, it gives advance warning to other road users, or at least a lot more than if not being persued.
I'm all for personal responsibility myself, nick a car and drive like a tosser, or be a passenger in a stolen car being driven by a tosser, you're asking for trouble and I'm not too sorry if that's exactly what you get.

rsvmilly

11,288 posts

263 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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I blame society for failing these youngsters. I blame BiB for pursuing them and possibly contributing to the accident. The only ones not to blame were the youngsters themselves. They were simply bored by society not giving them enough to do.

Hopefully, the surviving youngster will be taken into care and given free holidays etc?

*Sorry. I don't know what came over me then. I came over all liberal and started spouting c**p. Hang the f*****s - well the live one anyway!