Cost of replacing a Give Way sign
Cost of replacing a Give Way sign
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kwill

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3 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Has anyone got any idea how much it will cost me to replace a Give Way sign? I hit and bent one earlier this year and the Council has just writtent to me to advise that they're replacing it and sending me the bill!

andygo

7,277 posts

277 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Just think yourself lucky its not the 'old bill' they are sending round!

When you get the bill, ask them if its a new sign unit. It may be that you just need to replace the post, rather than the complete unit. Also ask to have a deduction made as the sign was already xx years old..

Anyway, why did you hit it?

Deester

1,607 posts

282 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Insurance?

kwill

Original Poster:

3 posts

260 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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My fault I'm afraid - skidded on ice and went straight into it! It was pretty old already - any idea how much these things cost??? i.e. is it worth putting on my insurance?

chrishillcoat

168 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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Probably a few hundred quid by the time you've got White Van Man out to replace it

gopher

5,160 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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kwill said:
My fault I'm afraid - skidded on ice and went straight into it! It was pretty old already - any idea how much these things cost??? i.e. is it worth putting on my insurance?


as much as I hate the blame culture ripe in this country have you tried suggesting that perhaps they should have gritted the roads using your hard earned council tax....?

gone

6,649 posts

285 months

Friday 25th June 2004
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I would budget for between £200 and £300 for the job

kwill

Original Poster:

3 posts

260 months

Friday 25th June 2004
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Thanks everyone - I was thinking a lot more than that!

mattd

195 posts

262 months

Saturday 26th June 2004
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make sure you ask for a detailed itemised bill one of my friends thought the council was taking the piss with a 400 bill for a bit of barrier so he didn't pay it for a while then they called up and said 200 then he asked for a breakdown of the costs and he got a letter later saying that he doesn't have to pay. He went back to a place he crashed and all they've done is bend the barrier back into shape!

bogush

481 posts

288 months

Saturday 26th June 2004
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kwill said:
Thanks everyone - I was thinking a lot more than that!


So was I!

I'm sure I'd read somewhere that it cost around a grand to install* a speed limit sign, and a couple of grand for an illuminated one.

Similarly (I thought) the smallest speed cushion (the little square pads) is around a grand, ranging through 5 to 8 grand for a big flat one, up to 10 to 15 grand for a long one or a raised junction.

This is where your safety and road taxes go when they aren't putting in 24 hour bus lanes (where are the 24 hour buses?)!

Then again, I usually forget what I have read, misread what I do read, and probably never read it in the first place to start with. So I've probably got hold of the wrong end of the stick again.

* This is probably for a brand new 50, 40 or 30 out in the middle of nowhere to replace an unsigned NSL. But then again, it's probably one of a series being put in together. And they don't have to clear up the mess from the one being replaced.

S Works

10,166 posts

272 months

Saturday 26th June 2004
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gone said:
I would budget for between £200 and £300 for the job


I think you'll find it's a fair bit more than that. Roadsigns themselves are extremely expensive, that's before you consider they'll charge you for mounting it on a pole, the pole itself, then paying for it's re-installation.

If all you did was knocked it over and the sign itself is ok, they should only have to remount it. I'd ask them what they're going to charge you for in advance and see what their plans are.

Could get very boring if you're unlucky....

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

270 months

Saturday 26th June 2004
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Now, lets see, if this is how Councils work:

New sign £150.
Worker to dig hole and put sign up £150.
Three brand new LDV flatbed council trucks to keep 1st bloke company £700.
Full complement of six lazy council workers to sit in the LDV's doing nothing except reading The Sun and picking their noses £700.
Generator and set of temp traffic lights £1200.
Two blokes with walkie talkies and lollipop signs because lights dont work £400.
Council maintenance call out team to come and fix lights £400.
Private contractor who came and fitted new sign yesterday anyway £650.
Cost and expenses of waste management consultant who has been contracted to find out where all the bloody moneys going to, who has come out to see the job £800.
Dozens of office bound non-targeted staff to prepare, analyse and then lose the report £2000.

Cost of new sign, bleedin' tens of thousands of pounds.

filmidget

682 posts

304 months

Saturday 26th June 2004
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Will have a look at a council schedule of rates on Monday to give you hopefully more idea - was the sign illuminated in any way?

chief-0369

1,195 posts

274 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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At a rough guess, about £1000-£1500 for an illumnated one £200-£300 for a none illuminated one. I cant give an exact figure as it depends on a lot of factors.

The actuall admin shouldnt be too high unless there are complications (there is no safe access for workmen or further, unforseen damage)

If its on the pavement with easy access it wouldnt be much harder than sending a couple of blokes out, digging out the remains of the old one and concreting in a new one. If they start asking for silly amounts query it and kick up a fuss as mistakes (and piss takes) are made ocassionally.

At the end of the day, it happenes a lot and they deal with it on an almost daily basis so they are set up to deal with it.

Wacky Racer

40,563 posts

269 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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Irrespective of the cost, if it makes you feel better, I always tend to look on the bright side in cases like this...

Imagine if instead of hitting a metal post, it had been a passing pedestrian.....

Could have been much much worse.....

Hope your car is not too badly damaged....

JMGS4

8,881 posts

292 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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gone said:
I would budget for between £200 and £300 for the job

Naah, with council workers you should add a zero!!!!

gone

6,649 posts

285 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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JMGS4 said:

gone said:
I would budget for between £200 and £300 for the job


Naah, with council workers you should add a zero!!!!


See my thread on 'Chavskid, did I laugh?'

The man from the council who came out to make the barrier/railings safe and the Electricity board man who came to do the same with th lamp post told me that the 2 sections of railings would be around £500, the 12 meter lamp post will be around £100 a foot, (for bogush that is £1200 in case you get the wrong end of the stick ).

I single non illumintated sign is not going to be much more than £300 or there abouts!

Pies

13,116 posts

278 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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12 meter lamp post will be around £100 a foot, (for bogush that is £1200 in case you get the wrong end of the stick ).



more like £3500-£400 going by those figures

gone

6,649 posts

285 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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Pies said:



gone said:



12 meter lamp post will be around £100 a foot, (for bogush that is £1200 in case you get the wrong end of the stick ).






more like £3500-£400 going by those figures




Ooops £100 per meter.
Just got up after a very long night shift scraping up bodies

I know what I meant anyway

And for Bogush, that is still the case unless of course you have a little difficulty understanding Especially now I have explained how 12 meters of lampost can work at at £1200 by the foot


>> Edited by gone on Sunday 27th June 15:14

bogush

481 posts

288 months

Sunday 27th June 2004
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gone said:
Pies said:
gone said:
12 meter lamp post will be around £100 a foot, (for bogush that is £1200 in case you get the wrong end of the stick ).
more like £3500-£400 going by those figures
Ooops £100 per meter.
Just got up after a very long night shift scraping up bodies

I know what I meant anyway

And for Bogush, that is still the case unless of course you have a little difficulty understanding Especially now I have explained how 12 meters of lampost can work at at £1200 by the foot
Nah, I understand you perfectly.

You're saying that for a 12m lamppost to dig up, cart away and dispose of the original and associated debris, and provide, transport and instal a replacement, costs £100 a metre, or £1,200.

Whereas if you only wanted a 1m replacement then you're saying that to dig up, cart away and dispose of the original and associated debris, and provide, transport and instal the replacement, the cost is only £100.

I'd advise querying why they need a full size one and try to get away with the £100.

Excellent advice!