Wiltshire launching two wheeled Talivan

[Mon Ami Mate]

28/06/2004 - New motorbike will tackle speeders


Issued on behalf of the Wiltshire and Swindon Safety Camera Partnership (WSSCP)

One of the first safety-camera-carrying motorbikes in the country will be launched on Tuesday.

Bought by the Wiltshire and Swindon Road Safety Partnership from money collected in speeding fines, the 650cc Honda Deauville carries the same speed enforcement equipment as the vans do.

‘But it reaches the places the others don’t,’ said safety camera unit manager David Frampton.

‘Unlike the camera vans, we can position a motorcycle in narrow lanes and on verges in villages and the countryside where a mobile van would obstruct a driver’s view.’

The shaft-driven bike will only be used for speed enforcement when it is static on its stand with the camera mounted on a post and bracket at the rear. The bike has two large panniers and a top-box to hold the equipment.

‘It’s also been modified to be identifiable as a safety camera vehicle,’ said Mr Frampton.

‘So it’ll have a high profile in rural areas where, we believe, it will encourage drivers to slow down and make roads safer - particularly for the vulnerable.'

‘In Wiltshire, the number of people killed or seriously injured at safety camera sites has fallen by 64 per cent - higher even than the national rate of 40 per cent.'

‘We aim to build on this success and the new bike is an important tool in targeting areas we couldn’t reach before.’

[Mad Dave]

Sounds like the bike that Salisbury police have - although that ones green.

[KITT]

Scamera partnership said:

‘But it hinds in places the others can't,’ said safety camera unit manager David Frampton.

Scamera partnership said:

‘Unlike the camera vans, we can position a motorcycle in narrow lanes and on verges in villages and the countryside where a mobile van would be too visible and wouldn't catch as many people’

Scamera partnership said:

‘It’s also been modified to be identifiable as a safety camera vehicle from a short distance by which time we're caught them,’ said Mr Frampton.

Scamera partnership said:

‘So it’ll have a high profit in rural areas'

Scamera partnership said:

‘We aim to build on this success and the new bike is an important tool in increasing our profits, targeting areas we couldn’t reach before.’

>> Edited by KITT on Monday 28th June 11:21

[jwo]

Quote: But it reaches the places the others don’t,’ said safety camera unit manager David Frampton.

‘Unlike the camera vans, we can position a motorcycle in narrow lanes and on verges in villages and the countryside where a mobile van would obstruct a driver’s view.’ End quote.

What he means is: we can now be even more sneaky and hide it in better places so more motorists will get nailed.

The thing that annoys me is that these scamera things are there to make people slow down, what is the point in not being able to see them!!!!

[DustyC]

I hope he falls off whilst trying to stop for another scamera.

[Peter Ward]

jwo said:

The thing that annoys me is that these scamera things are there to make people slow down, what is the point in not being able to see them!!!!

I think the point is that they want to generate a culture of fear of cameras so that everyone drives at the speed limit all the time just in case. They don't actually want to slow people down at blackspots, they want to slow us down everywhere. Only by having hidden, grey, sneaky and against-guidelines positioning of cameras can the necessary culture of fear be generated.

And I'm sure it's coming. It won't be long before the yellow's gone and the scamera vans are stealth-grey. Brunstrom wins again. But who suffers? The law-abiding who have something to lose, not the criminals who can contribute nothing (paraphrasing Tonyrec).

[lbir2]

Does seem to be the emerging policy. scare people so much they have to drive at the limit everywhere just in case. This would seem to be backed up by the latest verbal excrement coming from Brunstrom - hiding cameras so people dont know exactly where they have to slow.

SPECs is the ultimate big brother type system for covering large distance in one go (whereas vans and fixed can only cover a small area).

I just had an awful thought. Get 2 vans using the ANPR ocr system.

Position them say 5 miles apart.

Simple vhf data link between them (or similar).

A bit of simply computer software and there you have it, mobile SPECs units that can be put anywere on any road at any time.



>> Edited by lbir2 on Monday 28th June 16:10

[Peter Ward]

Careful, lbir2, "walls have ears" as they used to say.

[lbir2]

These days they have eyes, specifically the laser variety.

As do bridges, bushes, trees, bends in the road etc etc.....

[Cooperman]

So, just jam the b*****s with your 'Blinder'.

[sadako]

Blinder wont work on anpr, Dont know if anpr is infra red camera though. So all you need is a large source on infra red to blind it, say, perhaps, driving with your bonnet removed ^_^