prang help.
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MrPeters

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371 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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Guys I need a little bit of assistance. I have a car which I insure with me as the Main driver, and both my parents as named drivers. Its an fc policy.

Just had a call from dad to say he's gone into the back of a learner. No damage to my car (I'll be the judge of that later) but significant damage to learners vehicle.

If this goes through insurance it'll count as a claim against me, because im the policyholder, won't it?

Downton Mini

1,026 posts

186 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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I had this with my brother the policy is a named driver on my policy. I have been told that if my brother is to be a named driver on a policy in my name then it will go against his name if he's not a named driver then it would need to go against me as it was on my policy.

DOes that make sense?

catman

2,504 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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Whilst it will count as a claim on your policy, you can truthfully say that YOU haven't had an accident, when it comes to renewal time.

Tim

MrPeters

Original Poster:

371 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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But will it affect my precious no claims? Or is this completely between dad and the insurance co?

sday12

5,066 posts

233 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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catman said:
Whilst it will count as a claim on your policy, you can truthfully say that YOU haven't had an accident, when it comes to renewal time.

Tim
This ^^^^^^

Have you had a accident in the the last 5 years? ...No.


Be careful how you disclose it though, make sure they understand: Claim? Yes Accident No.

Admiral got confused, but saved me £250 in the end when they misquoted me.

Them:Have you had a claim? No, it's my wife policy.

Admiral, oh, no claim no accident!

Me: No, no claim, one accident.
FFS.

Downton Mini

1,026 posts

186 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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MrPeters said:
But will it affect my precious no claims? Or is this completely between dad and the insurance co?
Have you got protected no claims if you have then no it won't if not then sadly yes as the clai is against your policy

diddles

446 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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hora said:
MrPeters said:
Just had a call from dad to say he's gone into the back of a learner. No damage to my car (I'll be the judge of that later) but significant damage to learners vehicle.
I can't help however you've got a lifetimes ammunition now to wind him up with.

Whenever I've driven any car belonging to a friend etc etc (as I'm only 3rd party covered on any other car other than my own) theres always been a rule, if I prang it I pay the policy holders increased annual premium(s) AS WELL as the excess.

Thats fair and fair for you to ask of him.
If you prang your friends car and it is your fault then you will be paying for all the damage to your friends car yourself. Your own or your friends insurance company is not going to help you. Your friend will not pay any increased premium or excess either as they cannot make a claim if you are not named on their policy. DOC only covers you via your own policy for damages to third parties out with the vehicle that you are driving at the time.


MrPeters

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371 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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Downton Mini said:
Have you got protected no claims if you have then no it won't if not then sadly yes as the clai is against your policy
Will I lose all of it? I seem to remember mum only losing a couple of years after her prang a few years back.

essayer

10,322 posts

216 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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MrPeters said:
Will I lose all of it? I seem to remember mum only losing a couple of years after her prang a few years back.
Depends on your policy but IIRC it's 5->3->1->0 or similar

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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I'd make your dad pay you the difference in policy until you have the same level of NCB again, or maybe you dad could pay for the repair of the other car, and no involve the insurance.

MrPeters

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371 posts

185 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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We're hoping not to involve the insurance. With the other driver being young, we're hoping they won't want an accident on her record before she's passed either.

diddles

446 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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hora said:
diddles said:
If you prang your friends car and it is your fault then you will be paying for all the damage to your friends car yourself. Your own or your friends insurance company is not going to help you. Your friend will not pay any increased premium or excess either as they cannot make a claim if you are not named on their policy. DOC only covers you via your own policy for damages to third parties out with the vehicle that you are driving at the time.

So it would be the cost of the car as well then. I kinda thought so.
You would just be liable for the full cost of replacing/repairing your friends car out of your own pocket ( if it was your own fault ) If you damaged anything else whilst crashing your mates car, then your own policy would deal with that. Your friends policy does not come into it at all.


Guffy

2,355 posts

287 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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MrPeters said:
But will it affect my precious no claims? Or is this completely between dad and the insurance co?
Might be me being cynical... but does protecting ones no-claims make any difference when the insurer requests details of accidents or claims in the last 5-years??

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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Guffy said:
Might be me being cynical... but does protecting ones no-claims make any difference when the insurer requests details of accidents or claims in the last 5-years??
I think it affects the % discount you get, but having a claim will add a % surcharge.

As far as I can it working. all figures are a guess but explain the principle.

with protection insurance is £1,000 you still have full no claims so you get 80% discount, so you insurance is £200, plus 10% for a claim so £220

without protection insurance is £1,000 you now have only 3 years no claims so you get 50% discount, so you insurance is £500, plus 10% for a claim so £550

jazzyjeff

3,652 posts

281 months

Thursday 15th December 2011
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TVRleigh_BBWR said:
Guffy said:
Might be me being cynical... but does protecting ones no-claims make any difference when the insurer requests details of accidents or claims in the last 5-years??
I think it affects the % discount you get, but having a claim will add a % surcharge.

As far as I can it working. all figures are a guess but explain the principle.

with protection insurance is £1,000 you still have full no claims so you get 80% discount, so you insurance is £200, plus 10% for a claim so £220

without protection insurance is £1,000 you now have only 3 years no claims so you get 50% discount, so you insurance is £500, plus 10% for a claim so £550
About right - though of course you'll need to take into account the additional cost of the protection to the premium paid wink