Driving along the hard shoulder!
Driving along the hard shoulder!
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Attym3

Original Poster:

7,259 posts

190 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Ok, so I'm stuck in traffic on the M6 doing 2/3mph, two cars have just driven past on the hard shoulder with their hazards on! Nobbers.
It's 3 miles to the next junction. My colleague seems to think it is an instant ban if they get caught, is this true?
Also a foreigner in an artic truck has just done the same!!


J4CKO

45,670 posts

222 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Only acceptable if you have a woman about to give birth or other life/death emergency, a flight to catch or getting to Waitrose becuase you heard they had a new stock of Heston puddings isn't, suspect it is those who think they are too special to wait with the rest of us.

Caruso

7,503 posts

278 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Some people seem to think that putting your hazards on automatically exempts you from all articles of the Road Traffic act. rolleyes

Watchman

6,391 posts

267 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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In an effort at making more lanes availaable, more motorways will follow the lead of the M42 I reckon, where the hard shoulder becomes a 4th lane when the overhead control-signs say-so. Makes sense I guess but yes, I think there's some serious penalty for using the hard shoulder when not instructed to do so, mostly because if you're in a queue, it's likely because of an RTA and the emergency services cannot get to the scene with the knobbers in the way.

Having said that, in the morning, people seem to have taken it upon themselves to queue on the hard shoulder to exit the M40 at Gaydon which leaves the main motorway lanes free. That seems like a good result to me.

R0G

5,028 posts

177 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Watchman said:
Having said that, in the morning, people seem to have taken it upon themselves to queue on the hard shoulder to exit the M40 at Gaydon which leaves the main motorway lanes free. That seems like a good result to me.
Plod will take the best safety view on a particular situation

davepoth

29,395 posts

221 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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R0G said:
Watchman said:
Having said that, in the morning, people seem to have taken it upon themselves to queue on the hard shoulder to exit the M40 at Gaydon which leaves the main motorway lanes free. That seems like a good result to me.
Plod will take the best safety view on a particular situation
Makes sense really; the hard shoulder is there for stopped vehicles.

GestapoWatch

1,393 posts

212 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Caruso said:
Some people seem to think that putting your hazards on automatically exempts you from all articles of the Road Traffic act. rolleyes
My dad used to call it an international parking permit whenever he saw some fkwit's car dumped in the stupidest place but with hazards on rage

Mr Happy

5,811 posts

242 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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I was stuck on the A1M yesterday due to a lorry rolling over (J45/J44) and the amount of people who decided to use the hard shoulder as a shortcut to the Wetherby services turnoff was ridiculous, it wasn't just chancers too... HGVs, cars, vans - you name it.

If there was a lone copper at Wetherby services, he'd have had an utter field day with that. I assume it's 3pts and £60 or is it heavier than that?

BertBert

20,835 posts

233 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Attym3 said:
OMy colleague seems to think it is an instant ban if they get caught, is this true?
no, 3 pointer

jmorgan

36,010 posts

306 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Mr Happy said:
If there was a lone copper at Wetherby services, he'd have had an utter field day with that. I assume it's 3pts and £60 or is it heavier than that?
It is quite interesting watching people get caught like this (it does happen) and then the ones trying to sneak back in the queue and no one lets them in....

richie slow

7,542 posts

186 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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BertBert said:
Attym3 said:
OMy colleague seems to think it is an instant ban if they get caught, is this true?
no, 3 pointer
Alex Ferguson (yes, Man Utd) had Nick (loophole)Freeman argue that driving on the hard shoulder was an emergency because he had the squits and needed a toilet rather urgently. eek
He got away with it.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

261 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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The other issue is picking up crap with your tyres. I would not risk it purely because of that

shovelheadrob

1,564 posts

193 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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jas xjr said:
The other issue is picking up crap with your tyres. I would not risk it purely because of that
Would that be related to the Alex Ferguson incident?

williamp

20,082 posts

295 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Years ago my Dad got done like this. In traffic, my Mum sees a copper ahead waving. She assumes he is saying "OK, use the hard shoulder, come on..." so she tells my Dad to pull out. He does, and the copper (who was indicating to someone behind Dad to keep going until the car reaches the copper) suddenly finds himself with two cars approaching him...

streaky

19,311 posts

271 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Attym3 said:
Ok, so I'm stuck in traffic on the M6 doing 2/3mph, two cars have just driven past on the hard shoulder with their hazards on! Nobbers.
You're posting on PH while driving along a motorway, and those using the hard shoulder are "Nobbers"! What does that make you?

Streaky

Caruso

7,503 posts

278 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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streaky said:
ou're posting on PH while driving along a motorway, and those using the hard shoulder are "Nobbers"! What does that make you?

Streaky
A passenger in his colleague's car?

Robb F

4,614 posts

193 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Caruso said:
streaky said:
ou're posting on PH while driving along a motorway, and those using the hard shoulder are "Nobbers"! What does that make you?

Streaky
A passenger in his colleague's car?
Touche

anonymous-user

76 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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Mr Happy said:
I was stuck on the A1M yesterday due to a lorry rolling over (J45/J44) and the amount of people who decided to use the hard shoulder as a shortcut to the Wetherby services turnoff was ridiculous, it wasn't just chancers too... HGVs, cars, vans - you name it.

If there was a lone copper at Wetherby services, he'd have had an utter field day with that. I assume it's 3pts and £60 or is it heavier than that?
There'd only be some PH knobber calling him a Jobworth biggrin.

vincenz

691 posts

254 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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I was stuck in this OP (well if its the bent Aston Vantage that hit the armco and Renault) at 15/16.

Didn't see any of the hard shoulder motoring but did see people whizz up lanes two and three (even though they were closed) and cut in last minute at high speed, was expecting another bump, very selfish attitude.


BOF

991 posts

245 months

Saturday 17th December 2011
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R0G said:
Plod will take the best safety view on a particular situation
Rog,

Some years ago - on the way to a wedding - the ladies hats and the wedding suits in the boot - traffic halts about 300 yards (plus maybe 10 yards?) from the exit we needed off the M4 to get to the hotel...wash and dress for the Church service.

I told my passengers... ' I am going to regret this...but we will miss the wedding if we don't move'.

Flashers on...on to the hard shoulder...never been called a bisterd THAT often from drivers...crept at 5mph up the lane...

You guessed...at the top of the slip road...a Trafpol...to the great amusement of the drivers PROPERLY annoyed at me...

Very polite..'Do you think you are superior Sir?'

No Officer...here is our wedding invitation...(it had the venue and the time of course)...boot opened 'here are the clothes the ladies need to change into...we are really short of time and I have, as carefully as possible, broken the law...hands up...no excuses...just my reason for my action'.

The Officer used his judgement in this particular situation...not as unique as is frequently suggested...

Nice comment to the ladies and waved us on...

BOF