Can I claim off council for damage to car?
Can I claim off council for damage to car?
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Adam111

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1,252 posts

176 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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Caught my splitter on a sleeping policeman, no way I can get over it without scraping.

Not done much damage really, just a little chunk out my splitter. Will be getting it mended anyway.

Car is completely standard, not modified.

Do you reckon I can claim off the council for the damage?

I know of people claiming new wheels for pothole damage etc?

Cheers

eybic

9,212 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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afaik they are supposed to be within certain size limitations so you might want to look into that but I don't think you'll have much luck with a claim unfortunately.

frosted

3,549 posts

199 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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Claim claim claim . I got an idea, why don't you claim off your mum and dad for givin birth to you , claim off the person who gave you a licence and lastly claim of the person who sold you a car with a silly splitter ?

Adam111

Original Poster:

1,252 posts

176 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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It's not rediculously low. I'll look into it.

Thanks guys.

I'm not one for the claim culture, but if i'm going to pay fk knows how much for road tax, the last thing I expect it for my standard car to be damaged from the road. If someone damaged my car in another way, I'd probably try to find compensation - why should I have to pay for someone elses actions? But thanks for your input Frosted.

eybic

9,212 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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lyonspride

2,978 posts

177 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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Councils seem to be able to get around the required specs for speed bumps, by dipping the road on which it's placed. This keeps the height down compared to the rest of the road, but makes them actually worse than they should be because your car falls into the dip before hitting the bump..... I used to think it was a coincidence, but now im convinced it's a loop hole.


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

277 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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lyonspride said:
Councils seem to be able to get around the required specs for speed bumps, by dipping the road on which it's placed. This keeps the height down compared to the rest of the road, but makes them actually worse than they should be because your car falls into the dip before hitting the bump..... I used to think it was a coincidence, but now im convinced it's a loop hole.
Or localised subsidence from all the cars and buses pounding the speed bump all day?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

239 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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Not to mention the large increase in noise and noxious pollution as vehicles are forced to slow and accelerate away...


lyonspride

2,978 posts

177 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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Mr2Mike said:
Or localised subsidence from all the cars and buses pounding the speed bump all day?
That's one of the possible explanations i'd considered, however these are so high that most regular cars will scrape their front bumper on them.

mcsnaga

24 posts

172 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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An issue I have with speed bumps is them (due to their height/severity) only being safe to go over at 20 miles per hour, but leaving the speed limit at 30.

If they want you to go over at 20, they should also (or instead) lower the speed limit to 20. If they say the speed limit is 30, I expect the standard of the road in optimal weather/traffic conditions to be safe to go along at up to 30 .. not up to 20! If a normal family car (not a lowered/sports car) is damaged by going over a speed bump at a speed lower than the speed limit, I would expect the council to take the rap for it!

Jagmanv12

1,573 posts

186 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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mcsnaga said:
An issue I have with speed bumps is them (due to their height/severity) only being safe to go over at 20 miles per hour, but leaving the speed limit at 30.

If they want you to go over at 20, they should also (or instead) lower the speed limit to 20. If they say the speed limit is 30, I expect the standard of the road in optimal weather/traffic conditions to be safe to go along at up to 30 .. not up to 20! If a normal family car (not a lowered/sports car) is damaged by going over a speed bump at a speed lower than the speed limit, I would expect the council to take the rap for it!
+1

I remember reading somewhere that councils must not place obstacles that make the road impassable and a council that did so had to remove the humps. It's a while ago but you may be able to Google it.

oldsoak

5,618 posts

224 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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10 Pence Short said:
Not to mention the large increase in noise and noxious pollution as vehicles are forced to slow and accelerate away...
Is no-one capable of negotiating these wretched things at a constant speed a-la that 'they' require you to go?
Personally I pick a speed that is comfortable (typically 15-20mph)and keep to that speed until clear of the things. Never been 'forced' to slow down and accelerate away to the next one yet...
smile

ETA I've never yet seen a road with speed bumps that didn't also have some reduction in the speed limit applied also...not saying they don't exist just that I've never seen one.

Edited by oldsoak on Wednesday 21st December 12:49

NiceCupOfTea

25,530 posts

273 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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oldsoak said:
10 Pence Short said:
Not to mention the large increase in noise and noxious pollution as vehicles are forced to slow and accelerate away...
Is no-one capable of negotiating these wretched things at a constant speed a-la that 'they' require you to go?
Personally I pick a speed that is comfortable (typically 15-20mph)and keep to that speed until clear of the things. Never been 'forced' to slow down and accelerate away to the next one yet...
smile
Takes a long time to drive down a long road with speed bumps at 15mph, especially if there is 100 yards or so between bumps. Find myself getting overtaken a lot if I do this as well. If it is a 30 limit, it should be possible to do a constant 30 mph without damage to a car.

Another concern is that in areas with speed bumps, it is usually because of other hazards (schools, shopping centres, etc.) - so is the best way to deal with this adding another hazard that takes attention away from the main hazard!? Lunacy.

oldsoak

5,618 posts

224 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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NiceCupOfTea said:
oldsoak said:
10 Pence Short said:
Not to mention the large increase in noise and noxious pollution as vehicles are forced to slow and accelerate away...
Is no-one capable of negotiating these wretched things at a constant speed a-la that 'they' require you to go?
Personally I pick a speed that is comfortable (typically 15-20mph)and keep to that speed until clear of the things. Never been 'forced' to slow down and accelerate away to the next one yet...
smile
Takes a long time to drive down a long road with speed bumps at 15mph, especially if there is 100 yards or so between bumps. Find myself getting overtaken a lot if I do this as well. If it is a 30 limit, it should be possible to do a constant 30 mph without damage to a car.

Another concern is that in areas with speed bumps, it is usually because of other hazards (schools, shopping centres, etc.) - so is the best way to deal with this adding another hazard that takes attention away from the main hazard!? Lunacy.
Oh don't get me wrong..I agree entirely...one 'should' be able to travel at the speed limit over these things.
I just take issue when folks whinge about slowing down and speeding up when travelling at a constant rate that allows safe passage over these devils' spawn' gets you where you're going just as fast with less 'pollution.
ETA speed bumps are usually the product of people ignoring a lowered limit.

saaby93

32,038 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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oldsoak said:
ETA speed bumps are usually the product of people ignoring a lowered limit.
Morning Oldsoak smile
If thats the case shouldnt the limit go back up again if there's no safety issues?


eybic

9,212 posts

196 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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For some reason I am able to do just under 30 over the "cushions" near me, most other cars only seem able to do about 10-15 though. Even when driving other cars I have to slow to about 15 to be able ot get over them without sending struts through the bonnet.

frosted

3,549 posts

199 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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eybic said:
For some reason I am able to do just under 30 over the "cushions" near me, most other cars only seem able to do about 10-15 though. Even when driving other cars I have to slow to about 15 to be able ot get over them without sending struts through the bonnet.
Depends on the car , my non splitter car can travel at 30mph over speed bumps without any issues , I see loads of people going at 5mph though . I believe in choice , and like you wouldn't buy summer clothes for the winter and expect to be warm I wouldn't understand why anyone would buy a sporty car and moan about potholes and speed humps . All I my opinion only

218g

417 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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oldsoak said:
Is no-one capable of negotiating these wretched things at a constant speed a-la that 'they' require you to go?
Personally I pick a speed that is comfortable (typically 15-20mph)and keep to that speed until clear of the things. Never been 'forced' to slow down and accelerate away to the next one yet...
smile
Well, no. Of course one isn't forced, in the same way that one is rarely forced to drive a car at all smile. What is forced (assuming it's safe to do so and all that) is to have to choose between speeding up after each bump and slowing for the next one, or driving at a constant speed that is considerably slower than if the bumps weren't there. When forced into that choice, it would seem to me that the vast majority choose the former. I do. It seems you choose the latter. I see very, very few people choosing that.

oldsoak said:
I've never yet seen a road with speed bumps that didn't also have some reduction in the speed limit applied also...not saying they don't exist just that I've never seen one.
Not sure what you mean? Every speed bump I can think of that I regularly encounter is on a road that had a 30 limit before the bumps appeared, and still has a 30 limit. Mind you, quite a lot (but by no means all) of the speed bumps I regularly encounter can be driven over comfortably at 30.

eybic said:
Apart from not allowing vertical faces to be more than 6mm high, those regulations don't appear to say anything about how steep the climb onto the speed bump is allowed to be. Would a leading face 100mm high and nearly, but not quite, vertical really be legal?

oldsoak

5,618 posts

224 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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saaby93 said:
orning Oldsoak smile
If thats the case shouldnt the limit go back up again if there's no safety issues?
Good morning...where the Sam Hill did you get that from?
Who mentioned anything about there being (or not being) any safety issues?
I said speed bumps were 'usually' the product of a lowered limit not being adhered to...I know locally to me this is the reason why they've been installed.
People today seem always to be in a hell fired hurry to get nowhere in particular and don't give a toss about anyone or anything else. These people are IMHO responsible for these speed bumps becoming more and more commonplace....that and local authorities pandering to the 'save the children and fluffy bunnies' lobby is why this septic isle is now littered with the darned things!
For the sake of not wanting a couple of minutes or so being added to our journey in adhering to a lower limit,we all must suffer these abominations on our roads.
There you've done it now...need to lay down and take a chill pill!


oldsoak

5,618 posts

224 months

Wednesday 21st December 2011
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218g said:
oldsoak said:
I've never yet seen a road with speed bumps that didn't also have some reduction in the speed limit applied also...not saying they don't exist just that I've never seen one.
Not sure what you mean? Every speed bump I can think of that I regularly encounter is on a road that had a 30 limit before the bumps appeared, and still has a 30 limit. Mind you, quite a lot (but by no means all) of the speed bumps I regularly encounter can be driven over comfortably at 30.
I mean simply that once they (the LA) install a speed bump there is usually also a lowering of the limit a-la a 30mph area without bumps becomes a 20mph area with speed bumps etc...although people still think for some unknown reason, that they should be able to travel over the bumps at the old limit...confused
I have never yet seen an area with speed bumps that hasn't also had it's limit reduced.