Points on licence
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DaveH23

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3,349 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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Morning Guys, a few questions if I may.

I got an SP30 back in either 2007/08 I need to get home and check exactly which year.

Firstly am I right in understanding they stay on your licence for xx amount of years and on your insurance longer, each insurance Co being different of course.

When they expire from your licence do I need to send my paper counterpart back to have them removed or do I simply do nothing?

Reason being is I got a driving experience for Christmas that requires a clean licence.

Many Thanks.

  • Just realised this should probably be in SP&L. Would a mod kindly move it please.

Dave Hedgehog

15,717 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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i believe its

3 years for totting up
4 years on license
5 years for insurance

more serious offences are much longer

here's a list

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensi...

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Wednesday 28th December 10:26

DaveH23

Original Poster:

3,349 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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Dave Hedgehog said:
i believe its

3 years for totting up
4 years on license
5 years for insurance
Totting up? what is this you speak of?

Toaster Pilot

14,839 posts

180 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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DaveH23 said:
Totting up? what is this you speak of?
Totting up = accumulating 12 points to get banned

CraigyMc

18,094 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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DaveH23 said:
Reason being is I got a driving experience for Christmas that requires a clean licence.
Out of interest, what/where is it?

I've never heard of that being a requirement before.

Dave Hedgehog

15,717 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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DaveH23 said:
Totting up? what is this you speak of?
that prize game, where if you can score a total of 12 points you win a ban

DaveH23

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3,349 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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Dave Hedgehog said:
that prize game, where if you can score a total of 12 points you win a ban
Im not very good at this - Not sure if this is a good or a bad thing. biggrin

As above its a Porsche driving day in Newcastle and have a telephone or email address to call to book but the slip we have has no website.

The GF won it in a raffle before Christmas and never said anything and gave it to me as a surprise so only cost her the price of a raffle ticket.

Don’t have any of the details to hand but will Google the number when I get in tonight to find out more of the details and keep you guys posted.

At the bottom of the form I have it states you must be over 25 with a clean licence.


Marty63

2,347 posts

196 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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On first google

http://www.driving-experience-uk.co.uk/

not sure if that's the one or not - based in Teeside



Driving Sensation Ltd

P.O. Box 810, Whitley Bay, NE26 9BW

Tel:0844 335 03 78

Email:enquiries@drivingsensation.com

Dave Hedgehog

15,717 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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Marty63 said:
On first google

http://www.driving-experience-uk.co.uk/

not sure if that's the one or not - based in Teeside



Driving Sensation Ltd

P.O. Box 810, Whitley Bay, NE26 9BW

Tel:0844 335 03 78

Email:enquiries@drivingsensation.com
ring them and explain the situation, they will say yay or nay

DaveH23

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3,349 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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Dave Hedgehog said:
ring them and explain the situation, they will say yay or nay
I dont actually think it is them as im sure the email address has porsche in the title so is specifically porsche orientated but could be wrong.

Anyway thanks for the heads up and will check it out tonight and let you guys know.

sday12

5,066 posts

233 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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Licence

DaveH23

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3,349 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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sday12 said:
Licence
Ok just text home and the telephone and email are for the Porsche garage at the Silverlink.

Just had a look at their website http://www.porsche.com/all/uk/?newcastle and cant see anything regarding driving days.


ShampooEfficient

4,278 posts

233 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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They have donated it as a raffle prize, it's not a retail thing.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:KUj...

From a few years back, someone else won it.

DaveH23

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3,349 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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ShampooEfficient said:
They have donated it as a raffle prize, it's not a retail thing.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:KUj...

From a few years back, someone else won it.
That sounds about right.

Does this sound like your average driving experience or something similar? Never done one before and the voucher is at home so can't check.

Is it likely to be something along the lines of going out on the track with an instructor and then a few laps yourself?

If so anybody know what track they are likely to use?

Marty63

2,347 posts

196 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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Once round the silverlink perhaps

DaveH23

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3,349 posts

192 months

Wednesday 28th December 2011
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Marty63 said:
Once round the silverlink perhaps
Aslong as they shut every road in the surounding area I will be happy.

Back to my OP what happens to points on your licence once they have expired?

I have both a photo card and paper counterpart and have the fine written on the paper counterpart in pen.

The DVLA states you need to apply for a new licence and gives instruction for both paper licence and photo card seperately.
It states include fee but has no mention of how much this is.

I have ordered a new form to replace my licence either way but what if I was to leave the fine written on the paper counterpart? Will this cause me any problems in the future?


caziques

2,804 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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They must mean legally clean rather than physically clean.

As points don't count after three years for totting purposes your licence is technically "clean" after this length of time. Hence points say five years old should be irrelevant regardless of whether they are still on your licence.

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

255 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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DaveH23 said:
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The DVLA states you need to apply for a new licence and gives instruction for both paper licence and photo card seperately.
It states include fee but has no mention of how much this is.

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Assuming that the points have now expired (i.e. they are over 4 years old), there's no need to pay (or there wasn't, last time I checked this loophole - if they charge you to change address on your licence nowadays, then don't bother reading past the next paragraph).

PHOTOCOPY THE PHOTO LICENCE AND PAPER COUNTERPART FIRST, BEFORE SENDING THEM TO DVLA to make sure you have evidence if they make a mistake (losing vehicle class entitlements isn't unknown rolleyes , for example).

The address on your licence needs to be one at which you can be contacted, so you can change your address on your licence to (say) your parents' address (as long as you can still be contacted via the new address!).


Then when the new licence arrives at the new address... photocopy the new one then change the address back to your home address again.

TaDAAA *tish* In a couple of weeks, one "clean" driving licence - for free smile .


Alternatively, do nothing (also for free, and less hassle wink ) - if the points on your paper counterpart are pointed out by (for example) a car hire company, just point out that they have expired smile .