entry fees for pubs new years eve
Discussion
in 2000 pubs had to pay extortionate amounts of money for discos, groups, other entertainment and also bar staff.
i was on a CIU club committee at this time and people really took the piss or tried to.
many pubs decided to charge an entrance fee in 2000 to "cover costs".
ever since then it seems to be an annual thing £10 to £25 to get in a pub, albeit they chuck in a crappy buffet.
well you can take it or leave it i know but i was always under the impression that a public house had to allow free access to the public(obviously im wrong).
im sure in 2000 for some reason they called them ticket events allowing them to charge, which sounds fine but i was also under the impression that the pub license states you have open your doors x amount of hours per day and get a license for a private function, again (probably wrong).
i know this sounds like a whine,i suppose it is really, it has always pissed me off especially when theres nothing happening in the pub other than theres more people in there than there normally would be and you cant even get a drink for up to half hour, never any ice left and your paying to get in the door.
i can understand a meal and a bottle of plonk being ok, ive been to them myself but to be fleeced by upto £50 a couple is really a piss take.
is this legal or have we just been sucked in to this scam.
discuss.
i was on a CIU club committee at this time and people really took the piss or tried to.
many pubs decided to charge an entrance fee in 2000 to "cover costs".
ever since then it seems to be an annual thing £10 to £25 to get in a pub, albeit they chuck in a crappy buffet.
well you can take it or leave it i know but i was always under the impression that a public house had to allow free access to the public(obviously im wrong).
im sure in 2000 for some reason they called them ticket events allowing them to charge, which sounds fine but i was also under the impression that the pub license states you have open your doors x amount of hours per day and get a license for a private function, again (probably wrong).
i know this sounds like a whine,i suppose it is really, it has always pissed me off especially when theres nothing happening in the pub other than theres more people in there than there normally would be and you cant even get a drink for up to half hour, never any ice left and your paying to get in the door.
i can understand a meal and a bottle of plonk being ok, ive been to them myself but to be fleeced by upto £50 a couple is really a piss take.
is this legal or have we just been sucked in to this scam.
discuss.
Not that we will be going down the pub,or to town,but any pub charging anything at the door is a nono for us ,just turn heel.
Our local tried this as they had "entertainment" i.e. A tribute Elvis singer,stayed for one drink and then left and went home ,never again will go out and listen to that crap.
Then there's the after 12 kisses, mrs onthechange always gets the snogs,I nothing,not fair.
Our local tried this as they had "entertainment" i.e. A tribute Elvis singer,stayed for one drink and then left and went home ,never again will go out and listen to that crap.
Then there's the after 12 kisses, mrs onthechange always gets the snogs,I nothing,not fair.
Pubs have been charging for New Years eve for as long as I can remember. I've got almost a quarter of a century's worth of legal drinking under my belt and its been happening since I started going out! You either pay your money or go somewhere else, they wouldnt charge if they didnt think they could get away with it.
The reason I refuse to go out on NYE. My local tried once to do it. Bearing in mind I drank there all year, they then wanted £10 so I could go in my local on NYE and continue to spend money. Most of us regulars boycotted it and it was an unmitigated disaster of an evening by all accounts.
I simply don't agree with the whole concept of paying to get into a pub/bar/club where I am spending money. Many places have lost my custom purely because of my principles.
The only exceptions IMO are gentlemens clubs and members only clubs where you pay an annual fee.
I simply don't agree with the whole concept of paying to get into a pub/bar/club where I am spending money. Many places have lost my custom purely because of my principles.
The only exceptions IMO are gentlemens clubs and members only clubs where you pay an annual fee.
My local has a habit of charging a few quid on thurs/fri/sat after 9pm.
I know they'll be doing it again tonight, probably at an inflated price.
Our trick was to just arrive early, I don't know what all places do, but if they are open all day, surely they won't be charging their door price from the moment they open their doors?
If you can get there before they charge, do so, even if its 5mins earlier. I suppose bars and clubs that only open in the evening will be impossible to dodge like that though.
I know they'll be doing it again tonight, probably at an inflated price.
Our trick was to just arrive early, I don't know what all places do, but if they are open all day, surely they won't be charging their door price from the moment they open their doors?
If you can get there before they charge, do so, even if its 5mins earlier. I suppose bars and clubs that only open in the evening will be impossible to dodge like that though.
I used to go out every NYE loved it then 2000 came and costs went up and up and up. To the point I'm spending not far off a months going out dosh. So I ad friends instead had house parties - ever since the most I've spent on a NYE is the cost of a case of beer £15-20 that's for all the booze I can handle plus I take a foil wrapped pinaple with cheese on cocktail sticks
With the advent of pub co's and bar managers, old school landlords who can police their premises without the need to charge entry are few and far between. Gone are the days when you might have a few beers here and there, finally choosing yourself which hostelry to see the New Year in.
I see there being two distinct camps, the first being those who object to a charge one night of the year for entry to a boozer they frequent regularly, which is fair enough, and I agree with.
The second, is those establishments who lack a central controlling figure who stands no nonsense. These places may be able to hold many drinkers and often resort to charging admission, which is fine, provided it is meant as a control measure, and not as a means to increase profits on ticket sales alone.
By issuing pre-sale tickets, bar managers have a certain control over who is going to be drinking there, prior to the night.
But as I said, it should not be an exploitative money making venture. IMO entry should cost no more than a tenner, and should include some entertainment and food, something like a buffet, so punters get their money's worth.
I see there being two distinct camps, the first being those who object to a charge one night of the year for entry to a boozer they frequent regularly, which is fair enough, and I agree with.
The second, is those establishments who lack a central controlling figure who stands no nonsense. These places may be able to hold many drinkers and often resort to charging admission, which is fine, provided it is meant as a control measure, and not as a means to increase profits on ticket sales alone.
By issuing pre-sale tickets, bar managers have a certain control over who is going to be drinking there, prior to the night.
But as I said, it should not be an exploitative money making venture. IMO entry should cost no more than a tenner, and should include some entertainment and food, something like a buffet, so punters get their money's worth.
I would imagine it also encourages people to stay at that location as they a) will want value for money from their 'ticket' and b) won't want to move to another location and be charged again to get in.
I used to gig in pubs all the time years ago bit haven't been to one in ages, and certainly not on NYE...
I used to gig in pubs all the time years ago bit haven't been to one in ages, and certainly not on NYE...
Edited by Funk on Sunday 1st January 11:56
i was told in 2000 by our chairman who was an ex publican that it was illegal to charge entry to a public house.
if you wanted a private function the tickets had to be pre sold, a pub would effectively be closed..
you could not charge on the door and you should apply to the courts to do this as closing a pub within the on hours stated on the licence ie 10 till 3 and 6 till 10 were broken.
i realise the laws have changed now regarding open hours so no doubt many no longer apply.
one poster said this was normal pre 2000, well i have been in pubs every new year since 1975 and there was never such a thing as an entry fee, you might of had to have a ticket but this was to restrict over filling places.
shame no one here really knows the law on this.
as for inns having to having have accommodation and food etc i am not talking about inns, inns and pubs are two different things.
the thing is the police love it as there are not people moving from a to b to c all night.
we paid £40 each in 2002 but this was for a gourmet buffet, champers, brandies and cigars etc, it was a great night without getting knocked around all night.
and one other thing why the f
k do they shut the bar for 20 mins at 11:50pm so the staff can celebrate the new year if i have contributed to paying them treble time, then it can take another 30 mins to get a drink because 300 people are at the 30 foot of bar space.
and it also takes an age to get a drink prior the this 20 min break as the same 300 are also trying to get one.
the bottled beers are now warm and theres no ice left.
nothing like a whinge on jan 1
if you wanted a private function the tickets had to be pre sold, a pub would effectively be closed..
you could not charge on the door and you should apply to the courts to do this as closing a pub within the on hours stated on the licence ie 10 till 3 and 6 till 10 were broken.
i realise the laws have changed now regarding open hours so no doubt many no longer apply.
one poster said this was normal pre 2000, well i have been in pubs every new year since 1975 and there was never such a thing as an entry fee, you might of had to have a ticket but this was to restrict over filling places.
shame no one here really knows the law on this.
as for inns having to having have accommodation and food etc i am not talking about inns, inns and pubs are two different things.
the thing is the police love it as there are not people moving from a to b to c all night.
we paid £40 each in 2002 but this was for a gourmet buffet, champers, brandies and cigars etc, it was a great night without getting knocked around all night.
and one other thing why the f
k do they shut the bar for 20 mins at 11:50pm so the staff can celebrate the new year if i have contributed to paying them treble time, then it can take another 30 mins to get a drink because 300 people are at the 30 foot of bar space.and it also takes an age to get a drink prior the this 20 min break as the same 300 are also trying to get one.
the bottled beers are now warm and theres no ice left.
nothing like a whinge on jan 1
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