Car was garaged and insured - No Tax though....wtf..
Car was garaged and insured - No Tax though....wtf..
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Tyson1980

Original Poster:

712 posts

173 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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So i decided to bring my convertible out of storage. Go online to buy tax, pay and then am told because there was a gap in taxing the vehicle i may be investigated to determine why. Car has been in my internal garage and had full insurance in that time also..

Err...wtf... fking thieving Britian.... Nothing changes...

DatsunDave

73 posts

165 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Did ye sorn her?

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

260 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Never heard of SORN?

worsy

6,290 posts

192 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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SORN has been law for well over (IIRC) ten years.

Tyson1980

Original Poster:

712 posts

173 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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DatsunDave said:
Did ye sorn her?
No i did not SORN. I thought feck it as i had paid out £900 insuring the pile of crap..

What now? Farkin load of bks is what it is...

jingars

1,181 posts

257 months

virgil

1,557 posts

241 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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VX Foxy said:
Never heard of SORN?
Blimey, do you not get TAX reminders in the post?? DOn;t see how that can have escaped you.

Though I do find it gauling that I have to tell the government every year that Im not using a car I own that's kept on my private property!

SS2.

14,632 posts

255 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Tyson1980 said:
No i did not SORN.

What now?
It's a case of waiting to see if they issue you with a fine..

blueg33

42,389 posts

241 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Tyson1980 said:
No i did not SORN. I thought feck it as i had paid out £900 insuring the pile of crap..

What now? Farkin load of bks is what it is...
It only costs the price of a stamp to SORN it, much cheaper than the fine or insuring it.

Good luck I hope you sort it.

Decky_Q

1,834 posts

194 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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virgil said:
Blimey, do you not get TAX reminders in the post?? DOn;t see how that can have escaped you.

Though I do find it gauling that I have to tell the government every year that Im not using a car I own that's kept on my private property!
If youre not driving it except on your private property, and planning on never driving it on the road again then declare off the road permanently?

cuprabob

17,081 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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blueg33 said:
It only costs the price of a stamp to SORN it, much cheaper than the fine or insuring it.

Good luck I hope you sort it.
Doesn't even cost that as it can be done online

Pothole

34,367 posts

299 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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virgil said:
VX Foxy said:
Never heard of SORN?
Blimey, do you not get TAX reminders in the post?? DOn;t see how that can have escaped you.

Though I do find it gauling that I have to tell the government every year that Im not using a car I own that's kept on my private property!
Galling, nowt to do with the French! You won't have to from now on, allegedly.

falkster

4,258 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Tyson1980 said:
No i did not SORN. I thought feck it as i had paid out £900 insuring the pile of crap..

What now? Farkin load of bks is what it is...
I don't understand what paying £900 to insure has got to do with taxing or having the car SORN'd.

The off the road notice has been in force for some years now and it stops people trying to evade road tax. Instead of the usual 'it never gets driven your honour' excuse it's replaced with a SORN thus meaning if anyone has a car that isn't sorned they must be using it on the road without taxing it.

falkster

4,258 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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blueg33 said:
It only costs the price of a stamp to SORN it, much cheaper than the fine or insuring it.

Good luck I hope you sort it.
Or 30 seconds on the website.

falkster

4,258 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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virgil said:
Though I do find it gauling that I have to tell the government every year that Im not using a car I own that's kept on my private property!
Because they're not that good! How would they know that Virgil isn't going to be one of these divs that try to get away without paying his road tax.

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

260 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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virgil said:
VX Foxy said:
Never heard of SORN?
Blimey, do you not get TAX reminders in the post?? DOn;t see how that can have escaped you.

Though I do find it gauling that I have to tell the government every year that Im not using a car I own that's kept on my private property!
It was a question to the OP hence the "?"

Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

168 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Time warp ?

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

250 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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falkster said:
virgil said:
Though I do find it gauling that I have to tell the government every year that Im not using a car I own that's kept on my private property!
Because they're not that good! How would they know that Virgil isn't going to be one of these divs that try to get away without paying his road tax.
They don't, so they go for the lowest common denominator. Using a database that Virgil is expected to help them keep up to date smile .

Also, income generation for the country *cough* .

Job creation scheme for Swansea?

Errm. Dunno.

Imagine having the use of a car that's not linked to you and doesn't have your name on the V5C cloud9 ! Leave all this database-enforcement nonsense behind...

The SORN/taxation/continuous insurance requirements are broken (if not arguably totally and irreconcileably censoredd ), but unfortunately they are in existence and it's in our interest to comply to avoid financial penalties for what may well just be - and often is (I'd say there is just a small minority who take the mick, but we all face the same penalties regardless) - an oversight frown .

(This is all tongue in cheek BTW smile - but you get the drift?)



streaky

19,311 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Pothole said:
virgil said:
VX Foxy said:
Never heard of SORN?
Blimey, do you not get TAX reminders in the post?? DOn;t see how that can have escaped you.

Though I do find it gauling that I have to tell the government every year that Im not using a car I own that's kept on my private property!
Galling, nowt to do with the French!
Beaten to it! Bu99er!

So I'll content myself with pointing out that Gaul encompassed not just most of modern France, but Luxembourg, Belgium, much of Switzerland, Northwest Italy, and parts of The Netherlands and Germany.

wink

Streaky

Lucas Ayde

3,956 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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falkster said:
Instead of the usual 'it never gets driven your honour' excuse it's replaced with a SORN thus meaning if anyone has a car that isn't sorned they must be using it on the road without taxing it.
... Or the owner has just forgotten to SORN it ... or genuinely didn't know that they had to.

There used to be a principle called 'innocent until proven guilty' but that is being slowly and methodically done away with, the whole SORN rubbish being a prime example of the chipping away of liberties and forcing the public to comply with governmental control.

Still, having conditioned the public into accepting that they must submit paperwork on cars that aren't being used on the road (and are therefore absolutely no concern of the authorities) and paying fines if they don't jump through the bureaucratic hoops, the next step will be to introduce a charge for SORNing 'to cover costs'.

More money for nothing and less civil liberties - music to any politician/bureaucrat's ears.