Fog lights - visibility distance before you can use them?

Fog lights - visibility distance before you can use them?

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TheLurker

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1,473 posts

209 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Quick question: what is the maximum visibility before you can turn them on? I thought it was 100m for front fogs and 50m for rear, but when having a B+E lesson the other day I was told it was 100m for both.

I had a quick look in the highway code, and it just implies 100m for fog lights. Can someone confirm?

Thanks.

SS2.

14,588 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Fogs are only permitted to be used when the conditions have resulted in seriously reduced visibility. As far as statute is concerned, I don't think that 'seriously reduced visibility' is defined in terms of specific distances.

Regs here..

streaky

19,311 posts

262 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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The 'rule' I use is "poor visibility ... where the use of front/rear fog lights will (a) improve my visibility to others, and (b) improve my view of potential hazards"m and to HEL double-L with arbitrary distances.

Streaky

oldsoak

5,618 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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I tend to use my fog lights when it's foggy to aid me to see and bee seen in situations where visibility is reduced...

Distant

2,382 posts

206 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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The Highway Code does indeed confirm 100 metres, it doesn't specify if that's front or rear so I assume it's both. A good rule of thumb is to use them if you need to (or are close to having to) reduce speed because it's foggy. If you can drive at normal speed it's not foggy enough to use them.

F i F

46,435 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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SS2. said:
Fogs are only permitted to be used when the conditions have resulted in seriously reduced visibility. As far as statute is concerned, I don't think that 'seriously reduced visibility' is defined in terms of specific distances.

Regs here..
Agree with the above totally.

imo whilst it could be theoretically easier to have a defined number encoded, and thus potentially introduce it as a binary offence, there could be situations where visibility is very reduced, say 50m, but the situation where, say, rear fog lights being used would be completely inappropriate and cause dazzle to a following driver, eg slow moving traffic in town. Just one example.

Thus I'm not particularly in favour of using a number rule but use common sense, however 100m on a motorway more or less equates to the official DSA stopping distance at 70mph. So for my purposes when visibility is approaching 100-200m, ie I can't see two 100m marker posts, then that is the time to consider noticeably pegging it back and if nobody behind keep a watch when to switch rear fogs on and off.

Pretty much don't use front fogs, useless pointless things except in night time 15mph max pea-soupers imho. Similar day time visibility might use them to shine under the fog and give increased visibility of me by others.

trackdemon

12,740 posts

274 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Distant said:
The Highway Code does indeed confirm 100 metres
Someone needs to explain this to 50% of front foglight equipped cars....

streaky

19,311 posts

262 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Distant said:
The Highway Code does indeed confirm 100 metres.
I read the HC differently ...

Highway Code said:
226 You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet).
You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236).

236 You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.
Streaky

BoRED S2upid

20,548 posts

253 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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I wouldn't worry so much as this is the last thing the police bother to stop anyone for, the number of idiots on the road with these on all the time is rediculous. I was following a police car the other day who ignored someone coming the other way with them on.

TheLurker

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1,473 posts

209 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure where I got the numbers from, just something I remember reading. It's interesting to see the official regulations, which was exactly what I was after.

Incidentally, I can think of very few occasions when I have had to use fog lights. But that is a topic which has been discussed on here once or twice before, along with the front fog light brigade.

motco

16,516 posts

259 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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BoRED S2upid said:
I wouldn't worry so much as this is the last thing the police bother to stop anyone for, the number of idiots on the road with these on all the time is rediculous. I was following a police car the other day who ignored someone coming the other way with them on.
I watched as a traffic police car drove along behind a very modern car with old style black and white number plates (illegal on cars registered after 1973 I believe) and ignored what was right under his nose. He wasn't waiting to pull him 'cos the traffic car turned off leaving the offender to proceed. Of course is was cold and wet outside the car...

Distant

2,382 posts

206 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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motco said:
I watched as a traffic police car drove along behind a very modern car with old style black and white number plates (illegal on cars registered after 1973 I believe) and ignored what was right under his nose. He wasn't waiting to pull him 'cos the traffic car turned off leaving the offender to proceed. Of course is was cold and wet outside the car...
Was the officer on general patrol or tasked to a specific operation or job?

motco

16,516 posts

259 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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He seemed to be in no particular hurry; beyond that I cannot say.

falkster

4,258 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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But don't cars look pretty coming toward you with 4 lights illuminated?

Shaw Tarse

31,796 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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trackdemon said:
Distant said:
The Highway Code does indeed confirm 100 metres
Someone needs to explain this to 50% of front foglight equipped cars....
yes my front fog lights switch on before the rear one does.

R300will

3,799 posts

164 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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falkster said:
But don't cars look pretty coming toward you with 4 lights illuminated?
You can't tell as the fking fogs are blinding you.furious

trackdemon

12,740 posts

274 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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No point getting peeved about 'em anymore I find, I've seen two police cars with front fogs blazing away in normal visibility in the last month.

lgw

305 posts

223 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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As the Goverment is telling us to all tighten our belt and that we are living in difficult times, having a purge on illicit use of fog lights would raise a fortune for the treasury and most probably reduce the countries deficit by half

R300will

3,799 posts

164 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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My god thats a good idea!

lgw

305 posts

223 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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I thought so, pity it won't be taken up