DfT plans to ban Scamera Detectors!
Discussion
One of our firm's reps has given me this story from the "honestjohn" forum -
Plans to ban Speed Camera Spotters
The DfT has said it would like to ban use of in-car radar detectors (Scam Spotters
) in the UK.
Scott Marshbank of the DfT has said they are working with the police to find ways of making these useful gadgets illegal ( not raking in enough money
Marshbank said: "Motorists using a radar detector are preventing the police from obtaining a speeding conviction and they would like to see a change in the law!"
So admission - It is sinister plot to get our licences, restrict our freedom and drain as much cash out of our bank accounts as possible whilst they do it!
The news has caused outrage in the industry for these gadgets! Max Cornwall of Car parts Direct, who supplies the Quintezz XT7000 Plus radar detector, said:
"A Mori-poll has proved conclusively that radar dectector user is 28% less likely to have accident than a non-user. The DfT aim to ban the gadgets is inbelievable - it is a proven safety device! This demonstrates yet again the government's greed for cash from motorists and bears no relation on road safety!"
Have Origin in main family cars and RAs in the classics - whose speedos are definitely not accurate! Would agree the gadget is very useful indeed. Like having my actual speed displayed on the dash in line of vision - and the fact it bleeps in vicinity of schools (which are off main roads and bleeps well in time to check speed in scam city is a bonus Certainly do not have them to "flout the law"
Per article:
Radar detection sales in UK have increased by 122% this year alone per recent survey. Mr. Cornwall claims UK is biggest market in Europe for the gadgets due to massive increase of scameras. Motorists fear losing their licences, jobs and incomes, and this has made them absloute necessity!
The rest of the article is a bit of an advert blurb for Cars Direct - namely that they will pay fine if their hot seller misses a scam, and have some kind of competition to win a useful gadget as part of their campaign to promote the use of useful gadgets
Plans to ban Speed Camera Spotters
The DfT has said it would like to ban use of in-car radar detectors (Scam Spotters
) in the UK. Scott Marshbank of the DfT has said they are working with the police to find ways of making these useful gadgets illegal ( not raking in enough money
Marshbank said: "Motorists using a radar detector are preventing the police from obtaining a speeding conviction and they would like to see a change in the law!"
So admission - It is sinister plot to get our licences, restrict our freedom and drain as much cash out of our bank accounts as possible whilst they do it!
The news has caused outrage in the industry for these gadgets! Max Cornwall of Car parts Direct, who supplies the Quintezz XT7000 Plus radar detector, said:
"A Mori-poll has proved conclusively that radar dectector user is 28% less likely to have accident than a non-user. The DfT aim to ban the gadgets is inbelievable - it is a proven safety device! This demonstrates yet again the government's greed for cash from motorists and bears no relation on road safety!"
Have Origin in main family cars and RAs in the classics - whose speedos are definitely not accurate! Would agree the gadget is very useful indeed. Like having my actual speed displayed on the dash in line of vision - and the fact it bleeps in vicinity of schools (which are off main roads and bleeps well in time to check speed in scam city is a bonus
Certainly do not have them to "flout the law" Per article:
Radar detection sales in UK have increased by 122% this year alone per recent survey. Mr. Cornwall claims UK is biggest market in Europe for the gadgets due to massive increase of scameras. Motorists fear losing their licences, jobs and incomes, and this has made them absloute necessity!
The rest of the article is a bit of an advert blurb for Cars Direct - namely that they will pay fine if their hot seller misses a scam, and have some kind of competition to win a useful gadget as part of their campaign to promote the use of useful gadgets
Marshbank said:The same could be said for motorists driving within the speed limit.
Motorists using a radar detector are preventing the police from obtaining a speeding conviction and they would like to see a change in the law!
Actually, now I look at it again, he's talking even more b
ks. His implication appears to be that all motorists using a radar detector drive in excess of the speed limit.If radar/ laser detectors are banned, surely they cant ban GPS systems. After all a lot of Satnav systems allow you to put 'markers' on the map in places of your choosing for whatever reason. If, coincidently, all your markers happen to be at scamera sites then surely there's nothing the law can do about it.
Well if a speed trap is located in a certain place then *surely* it is a dangerous stretch of road where accidents are more likely to happen? Rather than having more accidents involving drivers who don't know how dangerous that road is, isn't it better that they get an advance warning so they know to take extra care up ahead? Surely it's in the interests of following the current policy of embracing the latest technology to enhance our lives?
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JMGS4 said:
Another proof that bLIAR and his scumbags want a GDR-type state where nobody (except party members that is) are allowed to do anything. Time that these bu99ers were put on trial for treason!!!!
Roll on that happy day. Blunkett was described as "a dangerous Stalinist" in the Mail on Sunday. Not just Blunkett, is it?
Peter Ward said:
I believe they have already said that they would not (at this time!!) ban GPS locators because camera locations are already public on websites etc.
Exactly - and what about "word of mouth" - are they going to arrest you for telling a mate that they have a speed camera in a certain location?
Glad to see that the powers that be are making increasingly more successful and reasonable laws. What about burglars, thiefs and murderers? Or arent they a target sector anymore?
So, what if they do ban the radar detectors? I seem to remember they tried to ban hard & soft drugs! Been really successful, haven't they.
Anyway, you can't actually stop the use of GPS based camera site 'locators'. They are not 'detectors' as such, as they are not an active RF receiver unit, purely a passive device for positioning your vehicle at a given location. I believe the Road Angel type of unit will evolve further to provide other navigational information. The camera locations are just one facet of the embedded software.
Laser-jammers are, of course, a third type of laser-camera defeating unit. There seems to be no legislation specifically to prevent their use and the only possible offence at this time seems to be 'obstruction of a police officer...'. Of course, a civilian just ain't a police officer.
The DfT are like silly children whinging because someone may be stopping them from playing with their toys.
Keep locating, detecting and jamming, my friends!
Anyway, you can't actually stop the use of GPS based camera site 'locators'. They are not 'detectors' as such, as they are not an active RF receiver unit, purely a passive device for positioning your vehicle at a given location. I believe the Road Angel type of unit will evolve further to provide other navigational information. The camera locations are just one facet of the embedded software.
Laser-jammers are, of course, a third type of laser-camera defeating unit. There seems to be no legislation specifically to prevent their use and the only possible offence at this time seems to be 'obstruction of a police officer...'. Of course, a civilian just ain't a police officer.
The DfT are like silly children whinging because someone may be stopping them from playing with their toys.
Keep locating, detecting and jamming, my friends!
I remember when they cracked down on tinted helmet visors all companies did was, instead of selling them, they charged a consultancy fee similar to the purchase price, to give you information on where you could get one for free in Ireland. I would imagine something similar will happen if this goes through.
WildCat said:
... Motorists using a radar detector are preventing the police from obtaining a speeding conviction and they would like to see a change in the law!" ...
Does this therefore mean that looking at your speedo will be outlawed too and will incur a fine & points?
When I drive I tend to use my B2 or S4 (depending on which car) as a better speed indicator.
simonrockman said:
I wrote to my MP about that chap who held up a sign warning people of a speed trap. I got a very self-rightous reply from a pen pusher, I'll post the details - and write back to her - when i get time.
Are you talking about the Stuart Harding case: the guy who 'perverted the course of justice' by preventing the crime (!) from being committed?
Please do post the reply when you get time.
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