S172

[woodytvr]

What is S172 and what is the penalty?

[Dwight VanDriver]

In a nutshell:

Section 172 Road Traffic Act 1988 applies to various traffic offences ranging fron speeding to manslaughter by the driver of a vehicle.

It imposes an obligation on the Keeper of the vehicle involved,or any other person to give information as to the identity of the driver to Chief of Police.

Failure to do so is an offence attracting 3 points and a fine of &1,000

DVD

[woodytvr]

Is that upto £1000 or £1000 so as per your advice in another thread if your down for a ban or prison (excessive speed) it's worth going for an S172.

[Dwight VanDriver]

Woody

Speeding:
Fixed penalty :60 notes 3 points.
Court: Up to a maximum of &1,000, discretionary disqualification, 3 - 6 points.

S 172.
Court: Up to maximum of &1,000, discretionary disqualification, 3 points.

I understand that they are aware of what your getting at and for the later pounds means points.

DVD

[Tafia]

Dwight VanDriver said:

In a nutshell: Section 172 Road Traffic Act 1988 applies to various traffic offences ranging fron speeding to manslaughter by the driver of a vehicle. It imposes an obligation on the Keeper of the vehicle involved,or any other person to give information as to the identity of the driver to Chief of Police. Failure to do so is an offence attracting 3 points and a fine of &1,000 DVD

But, as mentioned in the recent BBC's Real Story prog, where a person was killed and the two occupants of the car involved each said the other was driving, the police could do nothing because of their right to silence.

But if they had simply broken a speed limit and harmed no-one, they are allegedly forced to confess.

[Mr E]

Tafia said:

But if they had simply broken a speed limit and harmed no-one, they are allegedly forced to confess.

Yup. Isn't it great?

[Streetcop]

It works the other way too...

Drug/drunk driver recently killed 3 after losing control at 70mph in a quiet street. Sentence 11 years..

If he'd have murdered them with bare hands, while he was drunk, he'd have got life...

[gh0st]

Streetcop said:

It works the other way too... Drug/drunk driver recently killed 3 after losing control at 70mph in a quiet street. Sentence 11 years.. If he'd have murdered them with bare hands, while he was drunk, he'd have got life...

Which brings us to the obvious conclusion - If you are gonna murder someone, do it in your car.

[Tafia]

gh0st said:

Streetcop said: It works the other way too... Drug/drunk driver recently killed 3 after losing control at 70mph in a quiet street. Sentence 11 years.. If he'd have murdered them with bare hands, while he was drunk, he'd have got life... Which brings us to the obvious conclusion - If you are gonna murder someone, do it in your car.

And then say your passenger was the driver. Case closed

[woodytvr]

Thanks DVD

[jatrichardson]

Speaking dfrom recent personal experience, the minimum fine for failing to disclose is £120 - or that's what the beak sauid when he handed it down...