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MrFlibbles

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7,774 posts

306 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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No- not the furry kind

What is the law regarding catalytic converters?

Do post 1991 cars need a cat but others don't?

TIA

MrF

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

271 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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They had to be fitted from new by law, but you can remove them afterwards, but to pass an MOT there will be different emissions regs depending on the age of the car, if you remove the cat, it may not pass the tests, but if by chance it did, without the cat, its OK not to have a cat, I think.

MrFlibbles

Original Poster:

7,774 posts

306 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Balmoral Green said:
They had to be fitted from new by law, but you can remove them afterwards, but to pass an MOT there will be different emissions regs depending on the age of the car, if you remove the cat, it may not pass the tests, but if by chance it did, without the cat, its OK not to have a cat, I think.


eh?

ultimasimon

9,646 posts

281 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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So what the hell is a "Cat-back" then?

Is it a replacement for when you lose your cat ?

paolow

3,260 posts

281 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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ultimasimon said:
So what the hell is a "Cat-back" then?

Is it a replacement for when you lose your cat ?



IIRC a 'cat back' exhaust system is simply a replacement sys from the cat, back. ie, you keep the downpipe and cat but replace all the other silencers/sections.
i think...

tvrgit

8,483 posts

275 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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I think that cats MUST be fitted to post-1993 cars, and if your car was first registered after some date in 1993, and is fitted with a cat, then you must have a cat fitted.

Fortunately mine is 1990-registered, so the cats aren't mandatory, so they are getting the heave in 2 weeks (approx) pending delivery of new exhaust bits!

chris1roll

1,879 posts

267 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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All cars registered after august 1993 (K plate) must have cats fitted from new, and are tested at MOT at a much lower tolerance than pre 93 cars. Unsure if whether if the car can pass these lower tolerances without a cat, does the cat need to be physically present for MOT..
All cars before that, are tested as a non-cat equipped vehicle, regardless of whether they have a cat or not, as such it is perfectly legal to remove it. which is nice, cos my cars are 15 and 17 years old. (althiough the 740's emissions were low enough to have passed the cat test, even without one!)

Interesting clause is that if you fit a pre August 93 engine into a later car, and can prove the engines origins, it should be tested on the lower limits.

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

271 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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MrFlibbles said:

Balmoral Green said:
They had to be fitted from new by law, but you can remove them afterwards, but to pass an MOT there will be different emissions regs depending on the age of the car, if you remove the cat, it may not pass the tests, but if by chance it did, without the cat, its OK not to have a cat, I think.



eh?



I didnt say what you meant I thought you did, but as today is yesterdays tomorrow, its all perfectly clear.

As has been confirmed(ish), they had to be fitted from new post 93, but you can take 'em off if you want, its not illegal, but your car might not pass the MOT emissions test without them.

safespeed

2,983 posts

297 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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chris1roll said:
All cars registered after august 1993 (K plate) must have cats fitted from new


Yep. "K for Kat" is how I remember.

If you have a pre-k vehicle and want to remove the cat you need a "track pipe". If you fancy getting the ECU remapped you can also throw out the lambda sensor and get 10% more fuel economy. If you don't fancy remapping the ECU then you need to keep the lambda sensor.

There's likely to be a few extra BHP once the cat's gone, and a few more if you get rid of the lambda sensor.

If you have a cat failure in a pre-K vehicle then a track pipe will save you a packet.

kenp

654 posts

271 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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"Track pipe" also known as CRP or Cat Replacement Pipe, ie simply a length of pipe that replaces the missing Cat. Track pipe is misleading because you can get "Sports Cats" for track use.