Towing on Motorway.
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Superflid

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2,254 posts

288 months

Sunday 18th July 2004
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Would it be legal to tow (using an A-frame) a vehicle onto a motorway?

A friend needs to get a van back from Somerset to Leics, but I have a faint memory that it's a no-no to tow a broken down vehicle onto the M/way.

gone

6,649 posts

286 months

Sunday 18th July 2004
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Superflid said:
Would it be legal to tow (using an A-frame) a vehicle onto a motorway?

A friend needs to get a van back from Somerset to Leics, but I have a faint memory that it's a no-no to tow a broken down vehicle onto the M/way.



A broken down vehicle being towed becomes a trailer. It also does not lose its status as a motor vehicle so it needs to have the relevant documents etc. If it is on an A frame then no driver means there is no problem over licence issues.

You can tow the vehicle on the motorway to get it somewhere else but you are restricted by towing on motorways regs.
Not to exceed 60mph,
DO NOT USE LANE 3/4

Superflid

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2,254 posts

288 months

Sunday 18th July 2004
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Thanks Mr Gone.

nonegreen

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293 months

Sunday 18th July 2004
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gone said:

Superflid said:
Would it be legal to tow (using an A-frame) a vehicle onto a motorway?

A friend needs to get a van back from Somerset to Leics, but I have a faint memory that it's a no-no to tow a broken down vehicle onto the M/way.




A broken down vehicle being towed becomes a trailer. It also does not lose its status as a motor vehicle so it needs to have the relevant documents etc. If it is on an A frame then no driver means there is no problem over licence issues.

You can tow the vehicle on the motorway to get it somewhere else but you are restricted by towing on motorways regs.
Not to exceed 60mph,
DO NOT USE LANE 3/4


Surely the weight needs to be displayed together with the 60 sign to qualify for the extra 10 mph?

I ask merely for verification.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Sunday 18th July 2004
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Weight of trailer does not come into the equation.
A trailer, is a trailer, is a trailer......

DVD

nonegreen

7,803 posts

293 months

Sunday 18th July 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Weight of trailer does not come into the equation.
A trailer, is a trailer, is a trailer......

DVD


weight of trailer and vehicle must not exeed 7500 kg

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Monday 19th July 2004
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nonegreen said:


Dwight VanDriver said:
Weight of trailer does not come into the equation.
A trailer, is a trailer, is a trailer......

DVD




weight of trailer and vehicle must not exeed 7500 kg



He asked about simple straight forward tow for a van.
I did not envisage (smack on the wrist) a goods vehicle as the motive unit which as you say, if used, does have a weight limit on the combination of 7,500kg.
Nor did I consider weights at which matters become illegal.

5 beans in your bag....

DVD

>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Monday 19th July 07:09

gone

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286 months

Monday 19th July 2004
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Nonegreen,
Of course, the first question should have been "How big is your van?"

towman

14,938 posts

262 months

Monday 19th July 2004
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Other point to consider chaps is that by using an "A" frame, the casualty vehicle becomes an UNBRAKED trailer - am I right in thinking different rules apply?

towman

14,938 posts

262 months

Monday 19th July 2004
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Just remembered = you are exept from C&U regs if towed vehicle has broken down, otherwise brakes must be operable.

Steve

towman

14,938 posts

262 months

Tuesday 20th July 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:

nonegreen said:



Dwight VanDriver said:
Weight of trailer does not come into the equation.
A trailer, is a trailer, is a trailer......

DVD





weight of trailer and vehicle must not exeed 7500 kg




He asked about simple straight forward tow for a van.
I did not envisage (smack on the wrist) a goods vehicle as the motive unit which as you say, if used, does have a weight limit on the combination of 7,500kg.
Nor did I consider weights at which matters become illegal.

5 beans in your bag....

DVD

>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Monday 19th July 07:09


Hate to disagree with an informed source, but it is my understanding that a c1 licence holder can drive up to 8.25t train weight or 12t if the C1+E test has been taken. As I recall, the extra 750kg was added to allow for towing compressors/rollers etc.

In my game, towing an empty transit (even suspend tow) behind a Cargo/Canter etc is hardly ever legal as very few drivers hold the C1+E entitlement to cover 11t train. Obviously no problem if they hold the C+E licence.

Steve

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Tuesday 20th July 2004
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Steve

Interesting you have now brought DL into the question.

Now if I recall correctly when I was white vanning it, over 3500k fully loaded in the Merc van of similar size to a Tranny I was fodder for Trading Standards.
In fact ulw was just over 2500k leaving 1000k for load.
Whats the ulw of a Transit and a Cargo these days?

DVD

Superflid

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2,254 posts

288 months

Tuesday 20th July 2004
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Bloody hell, don't some people go on!

Towcar is a SAAB 9000 2.3 turbo, towed van is broken-down Suzuki Supercarry (Sooty had one!), so I think weight wouldn't be a problem here.....

....and it's home now.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Tuesday 20th July 2004
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Thank you S... and Good Night...

DVD