Crawler lanes
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Ki3r

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8,731 posts

185 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Just a quick question, I'm fairly sure I know the answer, but thought I would check anyway.

I came across a crawler lane for the first time yesterday, and was wondering if the speed limit is still 60mph (it was a NSL single carriageway road, A35 if anyone is interested), or does it go up to 70mph as its now two lanes?

I think it stays 60mph as there wasn't a sign that says 'dual carriageway', and no central barrier. Is this right?

Landshark

2,117 posts

207 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Yes, it remains a 60mph for cars as its not a 'dual' carriageway it's still single as it has no physical feature separating the two.

(it doesnt have to be a barrier, grass is enough)

Ki3r

Original Poster:

8,731 posts

185 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Cheers, thought that was the case. First time I've seen one (or driven with one) so wasn't too sure.

R1 Indy

4,492 posts

209 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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Its not a duel carriageway, just a road with more than 2 lanes.

A duel carriageway, is when both directions of traffic is split up by either grass verge or barrier. And can be one or more lanes in each direction

14-7

6,233 posts

217 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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R1 Indy said:
Its not a duel carriageway, just a road with more than 2 lanes.

A duel carriageway, is when both directions of traffic is split up by either grass verge or barrier. And can be one or more lanes in each direction
It could also be a dual carriageway unless you fancy a bit of sword fighting?

Mill Wheel

6,149 posts

222 months

Monday 7th May 2012
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10 Pence Short said:
You should have demanded satisfaction sir....!


Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

182 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I dunno, it feels like a duel some days.

jaf01uk

1,943 posts

222 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Liquid Tuna said:
I dunno, it feels like a duel some days.
The favourite haunt of our local scamera partnership, Scottish Office build an "overtaking lane" then they plonk a van on it for weeks on end to stop it being used for overtaking - brilliant!, they're obviously not in partnership with the road designers!?

KevinA3DSG32

13,729 posts

306 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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jaf01uk said:
The favourite haunt of our local scamera partnership, Scottish Office build an "overtaking lane" then they plonk a van on it for weeks on end to stop it being used for overtaking - brilliant!, they're obviously not in partnership with the road designers!?
Why would it stop you from overtaking if you do not exceed the speed limit to do so?

The Highway Man

7,285 posts

204 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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I think it's because the scamera van is parking in the crawler lane forcing slow traffic out into the overtaking lane forcing faster traffic to slow down. Is that stretch of road not a causeway, making it illegal for the scamera van to stop where it is?

Devil2575

13,400 posts

214 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Reminds me of the A1079 that goes from York to Hull. Some nice sections with crawler lanes to enable you to get past slower moving vehcles but with speed cameras on them. So consequently hardly anyone gets past as they're all too busy worrying about the speed camera.

XDA

2,153 posts

211 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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jaf01uk said:
The favourite haunt of our local scamera partnership, Scottish Office build an "overtaking lane" then they plonk a van on it for weeks on end to stop it being used for overtaking - brilliant!, they're obviously not in partnership with the road designers!?
A cynic might think that the scamera van parks there knowing full well they'll get easy pickings... scratchchin


The Highway Man said:
I think it's because the scamera van is parking in the crawler lane forcing slow traffic out into the overtaking lane forcing faster traffic to slow down. Is that stretch of road not a causeway, making it illegal for the scamera van to stop where it is?
I read it that the scamera van is parked on the verge. Therefore no one is going to be doing a speed above 60mph resulting in no overtaking. I'm sure that when we overtake in a 60mph, we probably do a speed higher than 10% + 2mph. wink

The Highway Man

7,285 posts

204 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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LGVs on the crawler lane will be going slow anyway to allow faster vehicles to pass with ease, within the speed limit. wink

supersport

4,587 posts

253 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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Devil2575 said:
Reminds me of the A1079 that goes from York to Hull. Some nice sections with crawler lanes to enable you to get past slower moving vehcles but with speed cameras on them. So consequently hardly anyone gets past as they're all too busy worrying about the speed camera.
That is one of the world's stupidest roads and I fking hate it. There are lots of stupid 50mph signs, which there is a remote possibility that they might serve a purpose for an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening when the traffic is heavy, you know just when it can't hit 50mph and the rest of the time when it's empty in the middle of nowhere so you have to crawl along wasting time and life for no good reason.

Mind you once you get off it heading for South Cave it is a good fun road, you just have to watch out for the old bloke on a Penny Farthing driving

The stupidest road is the A1 through Bedfordshire from the Black Cat roundabout to Biggleswade were the A1 goes from 70 to 50 to 60 to 50 to 60 to 70 rolleyes

jaf01uk

1,943 posts

222 months

Tuesday 8th May 2012
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The Highway Man said:
LGVs on the crawler lane will be going slow anyway to allow faster vehicles to pass with ease, within the speed limit. wink
Except it's not a crawler lane, it's an "overtaking lane" specifically designed as such, 2 lanes one direction seperated from the 3rd by a double white, to answer the "within the limit" point, people see the van sitting there and rather than creep past speedo watching in case they stray over and become the "fish in that particular barrel" just don't bother! The reason it was put in there was because there are so few overtaking opportunities near by and after, nice one NESCAMP, take a bow, a cynic could indeed think they were there for another reason other than road safety? wink

streaky

19,311 posts

275 months

Wednesday 9th May 2012
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XDA said:
jaf01uk said:
The favourite haunt of our local scamera partnership, Scottish Office build an "overtaking lane" then they plonk a van on it for weeks on end to stop it being used for overtaking - brilliant!, they're obviously not in partnership with the road designers!?
A cynic might think that the scamera van parks there knowing full well they'll get easy pickings... scratchchin


The Highway Man said:
I think it's because the scamera van is parking in the crawler lane forcing slow traffic out into the overtaking lane forcing faster traffic to slow down. Is that stretch of road not a causeway, making it illegal for the scamera van to stop where it is?
I read it that the scamera van is parked on the verge. Therefore no one is going to be doing a speed above 60mph resulting in no overtaking. I'm sure that when we overtake in a 60mph, we probably do a speed higher than 10% + 2mph. wink
Poster said: "on it", not "by it", so I too would interpret that as being parked in the lane not on the verge.

Streaky