Sorn and occasional use
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5paul5

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664 posts

198 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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I have a car that i only really use for the odd trackday, question is can i sorn it, not surrender the tax disc and then drive it to the track on a one day insurance policy, if so whats involved with unsorning it so to speak ?

wormburner

33,365 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Why sorn it if you're not going to surrender the tax?

Dave Hedgehog

16,213 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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i tried to insure a car that was sorn and the insurance company told me i could not

LuS1fer

43,386 posts

272 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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You can't. You'd have to tax it again and that would cost you a month's tax even if you cashed it in again. VEL is a bit of a scam.

5paul5

Original Poster:

664 posts

198 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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wormburner said:
Why sorn it if you're not going to surrender the tax?
The answer is in my question, only use the car maybe 5/6 times a year, so taxing and insuring it each time would be a bummer.

jon-

16,534 posts

243 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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5paul5 said:
if so whats involved with unsorning it so to speak ?
Unsurprisingly, re taxing it.

Which will cost you at least a month, and you'll have to faff around with refunds each time.

Lee540

1,586 posts

171 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Leave it taxed

Roo

11,504 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Lee540 said:
Leave it taxed
But that means having it insured all the time.

spats

838 posts

182 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Lee540 said:
Leave it taxed
But then you would have to leave it insured aswell.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...

I have a car that gets used only a few times a year. The only option I've found is to insure it on a very limited mileage policy and sorn it for the winter and tax it for 6 months over the summer.

Mainly becuase the insurance scammers want anywhere from £50 upwards to do anything to my policy, including swapping a car over. Plus no one seems to do short term insurance at a sensible price. Throw in the fact its modified and no one wants to know!

spats

838 posts

182 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Roo said:
But that means having it insured all the time.
Great minds and all that smile

Roo

11,504 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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spats said:
Roo said:
But that means having it insured all the time.
Great minds and all that smile
Yep.

Silent1

19,762 posts

262 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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If its taxed and off the road it doesn't need insurance which if he's going to sorn it he has offload parking.
Failing that register it as an agricultural vehicle

Roo

11,504 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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If it's taxed it must be insured.

You can have a car insured that not's taxed, but not the other way round.

supersport

4,607 posts

254 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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The whole point of continuous insurance thing was that even if it is off road and taxed it needs to be insured. The powers that be don't know it is off the road unless it is sorned, and then you don't need insurance.

If you don't insure it and someone nicks it, then you would have wished you insured it, wouldn't you?

If it is old enough, 10 years, get it on a classic policy with very little mileage and then insurance would be cheap. My 944 is £100 a year and so is not worth the hassel of taxing/sorning/taxing/sorning etc.

Burrito

1,705 posts

247 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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5paul5 said:
The answer is in my question, only use the car maybe 5/6 times a year, so taxing and insuring it each time would be a bummer.
Have you checked what the insurance would be like if you insured it annually but very restricted mileage. Might not be much difference to the £300-odd you're paying if you day-insure it. (Assuming it costs £50 a pop to insure it).

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

249 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Buy a trailer.

98elise

32,093 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
i tried to insure a car that was sorn and the insurance company told me i could not
They were wrong, its fine to insure a car when its SORN. I SORN my elise most winters, but its always insured as it could still be stolen.


Edited by 98elise on Thursday 24th May 20:32

Heartworm

1,938 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Silent1 said:
If its taxed and off the road it doesn't need insurance which if he's going to sorn it he has offload parking.
Failing that register it as an agricultural vehicle
If it's taxed it must be insured.

Silver Smudger

3,391 posts

194 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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Fort Jefferson said:
Buy a trailer.
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TwigtheWonderkid

48,673 posts

177 months

Thursday 24th May 2012
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The Royal Sun Alliance told someone I know that you can't insure a sorned car. I told him they were talking rot but he wouldn't have it. So I phoned the RSA and got the same story. They say it's illegal to insure a car on sorn because then it will appear on the MID but be off the road.

SO WHAT!!! I knew they were wrong but they wouldn't have it. Unbelievable, the level of training some of these so called experts have.