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I had to pop up to Carlisle yesterday...Nice drive..weather brill...air-con on full..etc..
Anyway, on the way back there was a nasty RTC on the northbound carraigeway (M6) a few miles before the Calisle exit. The scene was the hardshoulder and lanes 1 and 2, leaving lane 3 open. The fire service, ambulance etc were in attendance as were several Trafpol who had coned the scene nicely.
The queue had backed up for a couple of miles and prior to the queue a female officer in an Omega had parked her vehicle on the hardshoulder with the rear reds and blues flashing to warn other drivers of the danger ahead, (she also had the matrix sign on the rear parcel shelf going, but I couldn't see what message was displayed).
The point I'm making, is what a fantastic job the local Bib up there had made of keeping the scene safe and sterile and this was mainly down to the fact that they have the numbers to do it, unlike some other forces.
Street
Anyway, on the way back there was a nasty RTC on the northbound carraigeway (M6) a few miles before the Calisle exit. The scene was the hardshoulder and lanes 1 and 2, leaving lane 3 open. The fire service, ambulance etc were in attendance as were several Trafpol who had coned the scene nicely.
The queue had backed up for a couple of miles and prior to the queue a female officer in an Omega had parked her vehicle on the hardshoulder with the rear reds and blues flashing to warn other drivers of the danger ahead, (she also had the matrix sign on the rear parcel shelf going, but I couldn't see what message was displayed).
The point I'm making, is what a fantastic job the local Bib up there had made of keeping the scene safe and sterile and this was mainly down to the fact that they have the numbers to do it, unlike some other forces.
Street
I got stuck in the mess caused by Thursday morning's incident on the M4.
The police on the motorway were fantastic, lots of warnings on the central reservation matrices and even on the overhead ones to warn that the M4 was shut.
Everything neatly coned off at jc6, forcing the traffic on to the A355.
And then nothing else! So the volume of traffic is expected to wonder north less then a mile to the A4 and turn right at a major set of lights were the right filter gets a tiny amount of time on green.
What planet are they on - major gridlock ensued...
I missed my 7am flight to Dublin thanks to a useless RailAir driver deciding that being stuck in the jam was beneficial to people on their way to Heathrow - didn't use any backroads or buslanes through Slough
The police on the motorway were fantastic, lots of warnings on the central reservation matrices and even on the overhead ones to warn that the M4 was shut.
Everything neatly coned off at jc6, forcing the traffic on to the A355.
And then nothing else! So the volume of traffic is expected to wonder north less then a mile to the A4 and turn right at a major set of lights were the right filter gets a tiny amount of time on green.
What planet are they on - major gridlock ensued...
I missed my 7am flight to Dublin thanks to a useless RailAir driver deciding that being stuck in the jam was beneficial to people on their way to Heathrow - didn't use any backroads or buslanes through Slough
Streetcop said:
I had to pop up to Carlisle yesterday...Nice drive..weather brill...air-con on full..etc..
Anyway, on the way back there was a nasty RTC on the northbound carraigeway (M6) a few miles before the Calisle exit. The scene was the hardshoulder and lanes 1 and 2, leaving lane 3 open. The fire service, ambulance etc were in attendance as were several Trafpol who had coned the scene nicely.
The queue had backed up for a couple of miles and prior to the queue a female officer in an Omega had parked her vehicle on the hardshoulder with the rear reds and blues flashing to warn other drivers of the danger ahead, (she also had the matrix sign on the rear parcel shelf going, but I couldn't see what message was displayed).
The point I'm making, is what a fantastic job the local Bib up there had made of keeping the scene safe and sterile and this was mainly down to the fact that they have the numbers to do it, unlike some other forces.
Street
So people get a pat on their back for doing their job right? As taxpayers it is what we are entitled to!
Streetcop said:
You are of course quite correct gents. I`m just in a bad mood following an unfortunate incident last night.
Steve
Nevermind Steve..I'm used to you blowing hot and cold....What happened last night, now you've brought it up...?
Street
Zero response to 999 call - probably due to lack of resources.
towman said:
towman said:
You are of course quite correct gents. I`m just in a bad mood following an unfortunate incident last night.
Steve
Nevermind Steve..I'm used to you blowing hot and cold....What happened last night, now you've brought it up...?
Street
Zero response to 999 call - probably due to lack of resources.
Hence the obvious reply - Add "speeding" in to the 999 call and you will get the entire force attending
now sits back and waits for gemini....
To expand briefly:
Approx 3.30 am (for those of you who dont know, the worst time of day for falling asleep)
I caught up with another truck at the top of Stokenchurch bank on the M40. Both of us running "flat out" at 56mph. He started slowly drifting over the edges of lane 1. I initially put this down to problems with the "tram lines". Once we had got past High Wycombe it got worse - he just missed a bridge parapet, pulling it back in time. Then we came through coned off roadworks,he demolished 20 metres of cones and got far too close to the barrier crew. He was obviously falling asleep. He had a double height trailer and when he pulled it back, I sware i saw the n/s wheels leave the ground. I knew where the truck was from, so dialled 999 giving full description of truck and probable route. Once we got to the lights on M25, things improved, but gradually declined again. Rang 999 again at M3 junction (30 minutes later). Just after I rang he pulled onto hard shoulder and I carried on, so unable to give eventual outcome.
I just wanted the guy stopped and spoken to. He only needed a five minute and a shot of "blue light adrenelin (sp)" to wake him up. I didnt want the guy nicked, I actually felt sorry for him - you are in danger of losing your job in you stop en route while carrying parcels, and I bet he had not been able to sleep much the day before because of the heat.
My point is that a motorway patrol would have spotted the problem and been able to deal with it. As for no resources, what if the guy had put it greasy side up - imagine the resources needed for a blocked motorway, with none spare for the early morning rush hour. Reducing patrolling trafpol is very shortsighted and will be costly in lives and aggravation in the long run.
And Breathe
Sorry - did I say briefly?! lol
Steve
Approx 3.30 am (for those of you who dont know, the worst time of day for falling asleep)
I caught up with another truck at the top of Stokenchurch bank on the M40. Both of us running "flat out" at 56mph. He started slowly drifting over the edges of lane 1. I initially put this down to problems with the "tram lines". Once we had got past High Wycombe it got worse - he just missed a bridge parapet, pulling it back in time. Then we came through coned off roadworks,he demolished 20 metres of cones and got far too close to the barrier crew. He was obviously falling asleep. He had a double height trailer and when he pulled it back, I sware i saw the n/s wheels leave the ground. I knew where the truck was from, so dialled 999 giving full description of truck and probable route. Once we got to the lights on M25, things improved, but gradually declined again. Rang 999 again at M3 junction (30 minutes later). Just after I rang he pulled onto hard shoulder and I carried on, so unable to give eventual outcome.
I just wanted the guy stopped and spoken to. He only needed a five minute and a shot of "blue light adrenelin (sp)" to wake him up. I didnt want the guy nicked, I actually felt sorry for him - you are in danger of losing your job in you stop en route while carrying parcels, and I bet he had not been able to sleep much the day before because of the heat.
My point is that a motorway patrol would have spotted the problem and been able to deal with it. As for no resources, what if the guy had put it greasy side up - imagine the resources needed for a blocked motorway, with none spare for the early morning rush hour. Reducing patrolling trafpol is very shortsighted and will be costly in lives and aggravation in the long run.
And Breathe
Sorry - did I say briefly?! lol
Steve
Steve Towman..
Yep...I can sypathise...I've done the same many times and the control room know that I'm a Bobby, but still resourses have been too stretched to cope...
Good example of why we need more Trafpol, or at least numbers back to where they were..
Street
I remember struggling with a bag thief off duty once and someone was phoning 999 who was watching the event. I told them to state a certain phrase, meaning an officer needed urgent assistance and the cavalry turned up sharpish...
No it wont work for everyone..shame..eh?
Street
Yep...I can sypathise...I've done the same many times and the control room know that I'm a Bobby, but still resourses have been too stretched to cope...
Good example of why we need more Trafpol, or at least numbers back to where they were..
Street
I remember struggling with a bag thief off duty once and someone was phoning 999 who was watching the event. I told them to state a certain phrase, meaning an officer needed urgent assistance and the cavalry turned up sharpish...
No it wont work for everyone..shame..eh?
Street
Streetcop said:
Nevermind Steve..I'm used to you blowing hot and cold....Street
My postings generally reflect my mood. I think of PH as a bar where you go after work. There are people in here who you agree with, disagree with, choose to ignore, or choose to give a gentle prod to get a response! Thats the point. Thats why I enjoy it. the advantage is that if you go too far you dont get a poke in the eye. The disadvantage is that they only serve virtual booze!!
Steve
towman said:
Nevermind Steve..I'm used to you blowing hot and cold....Street
My postings generally reflect my mood. I think of PH as a bar where you go after work. There are people in here who you agree with, disagree with, choose to ignore, or choose to give a gentle prod to get a response! Thats the point. Thats why I enjoy it. the advantage is that if you go too far you dont get a poke in the eye. The disadvantage is that they only serve virtual booze!!
Steve
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towman said:
My point is that a motorway patrol would have spotted the problem and been able to deal with it. As for no resources, what if the guy had put it greasy side up - imagine the resources needed for a blocked motorway, with none spare for the early morning rush hour. Reducing patrolling trafpol is very shortsighted and will be costly in lives and aggravation in the long run.
And Breathe
Sorry - did I say briefly?! lol
Steve
yep, this is why the A14 is called "the highway from hell", it's a regular occurance and you can't see the scenery for cameras
BliarOut said:
Streetcop said:
Nevermind Steve..I'm used to you blowing hot and cold....Street
My postings generally reflect my mood. I think of PH as a bar where you go after work. There are people in here who you agree with, disagree with, choose to ignore, or choose to give a gentle prod to get a response! Thats the point. Thats why I enjoy it. the advantage is that if you go too far you dont get a poke in the eye. The disadvantage is that they only serve virtual booze!!
Steve
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Is the stick for a poke in the eye or a gentle prod!!!!!
Apache said:
yep, this is why the A14 is called "the highway from hell", it's a regular occurance and you can't see the scenery for cameras
What cameras ?
There is only one each way from Northampton to Huntingdon.
Oh yeh, I get it now the Godmanchester stretch, where there is about 6 each way, but no problem if you have a GPS based detector
ledfoot said:
yep, this is why the A14 is called "the highway from hell", it's a regular occurance and you can't see the scenery for cameras
What cameras ?
There is only one each way from Northampton to Huntingdon.
Oh yeh, I get it now the Godmanchester stretch, where there is about 6 each way, but no problem if you have a GPS based detector
That's the one, and coincidentally the bit where most fatalities occur. Lets hear it for the South Cambs Safety Partnership, making profit from death.
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