Worst road rage I've ever encountered...
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This happened a few nights ago, I was never going to start a new thread about it as people always find a way of bringing the blame back to the OP by pointing out something he did in error which made it his fault that these nut cases blow a gasket - quite frankly it wasn't worth the effort.
I've since had time to sit, think and reflect - and would welcome your comments.
Around 8pm on Sunday, I was travelling from Liverpool through the Wallasey tunnel. As I approached the entrance to the tunnel this chap in a Vectra cut me up something rotten trying to get in front of me. I was near enough level with the car in the inside lane, just about to pass and he found a space to squeeze through. I needed to brake.
This is where my decision to react could potentially have been a fatal one! I gave him a quick flash to indicate my annoyance, he gave me 2 fingers out the window. I gave him the old w
ker shake and dropped back - I'm currently on an economy drive to see what MPG figure I can get out of my 330Ci.
Next minute, he's hard on the brakes, into reverse and reversing towards me. I genuinely think he intended to crash into me, so I stopped, put it in 1st gear and went around him - I had to cross a double white line to do this but felt the circumstances required it!
I dropped back to my normal speed and thought he'd end there but no, he's up behind me, couldn't have got any closer.
As we exit the tunnel he goes for the same toll booth as me at the last second, I had to swerve left hard to make sure I didn't hit him or the concrete in between the booths. I put my window down to put my money into the bucket and he has his down telling me he's going to kill me. I notice a baby seat complete with baby in one of the rear seats and a young girl, maybe 10 or so, in the front passenger seats. He had a fast tag so got through before me and swerved immediately left trying to block me in the booth.
I was literally stting myself at this point, shaking like a leaf, but I swerved around him and gunned it away wanting to take the exit and disappear pronto before he had a chance to get back into 1st, turn around, and do whatever he was going to do. I got away onto the M53 and saw him approaching very fast in the rear view mirror. With literally nowhere to go, I decided I'd slow a little, pull alongside the cars in the inside lanes so he couldn't get past. I decided there and then that I needed to drive to a police station as this guy was seriously unhinged.
His next work of genius was to swerve into the inside lane, then onto the hard shoulder, gun it past everyone, swerve back into the outside lane and slam his brakes on. The motorway came to a halt and this guy again started reversing towards me. I was literally terrified. I didn't get the registration as I was wondering what on earth this guy was going to do to me. He was absolutely massive. So very quick mirror check and I'm around him and hard on it through 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear. Left him behind and decided that I needed to continue at a speed where he would never catch me up. I did 3 junctions like this until I knew I could come off the motorway, get onto the roundabout and disappear down an exit without him knowing which way I'd gone.
I did this, came off, took a random exit, did a right, then a left and parked up in a road I knew I could exit at both ends if he found me. I sat there shaking. He didn't find me and I left it 30 mins before going home the long way.
I've been reflecting on this since then. I didn't go to the police because I was guilty of crossing a double white line and subsequently speeding to get away, yet he threatened me, tried to ram me, reversed in the tunnel, overtook on the inside using the hard shoulder, stopped in the outside lane of a motorway and reversed on the motorway.
I felt I couldn't go to my local police station at the time because if I'd have been caught in traffic or traffic lights then he'd have had me. I couldn't use my phone to call the police because I couldn't have a single lapse in concentration at any point.
What would you have done, and what could or would you do a few days later after the shock has worn off and the realisation of what actually happened has set in?
I've since had time to sit, think and reflect - and would welcome your comments.
Around 8pm on Sunday, I was travelling from Liverpool through the Wallasey tunnel. As I approached the entrance to the tunnel this chap in a Vectra cut me up something rotten trying to get in front of me. I was near enough level with the car in the inside lane, just about to pass and he found a space to squeeze through. I needed to brake.
This is where my decision to react could potentially have been a fatal one! I gave him a quick flash to indicate my annoyance, he gave me 2 fingers out the window. I gave him the old w
ker shake and dropped back - I'm currently on an economy drive to see what MPG figure I can get out of my 330Ci.Next minute, he's hard on the brakes, into reverse and reversing towards me. I genuinely think he intended to crash into me, so I stopped, put it in 1st gear and went around him - I had to cross a double white line to do this but felt the circumstances required it!
I dropped back to my normal speed and thought he'd end there but no, he's up behind me, couldn't have got any closer.
As we exit the tunnel he goes for the same toll booth as me at the last second, I had to swerve left hard to make sure I didn't hit him or the concrete in between the booths. I put my window down to put my money into the bucket and he has his down telling me he's going to kill me. I notice a baby seat complete with baby in one of the rear seats and a young girl, maybe 10 or so, in the front passenger seats. He had a fast tag so got through before me and swerved immediately left trying to block me in the booth.
I was literally s
tting myself at this point, shaking like a leaf, but I swerved around him and gunned it away wanting to take the exit and disappear pronto before he had a chance to get back into 1st, turn around, and do whatever he was going to do. I got away onto the M53 and saw him approaching very fast in the rear view mirror. With literally nowhere to go, I decided I'd slow a little, pull alongside the cars in the inside lanes so he couldn't get past. I decided there and then that I needed to drive to a police station as this guy was seriously unhinged. His next work of genius was to swerve into the inside lane, then onto the hard shoulder, gun it past everyone, swerve back into the outside lane and slam his brakes on. The motorway came to a halt and this guy again started reversing towards me. I was literally terrified. I didn't get the registration as I was wondering what on earth this guy was going to do to me. He was absolutely massive. So very quick mirror check and I'm around him and hard on it through 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear. Left him behind and decided that I needed to continue at a speed where he would never catch me up. I did 3 junctions like this until I knew I could come off the motorway, get onto the roundabout and disappear down an exit without him knowing which way I'd gone.
I did this, came off, took a random exit, did a right, then a left and parked up in a road I knew I could exit at both ends if he found me. I sat there shaking. He didn't find me and I left it 30 mins before going home the long way.
I've been reflecting on this since then. I didn't go to the police because I was guilty of crossing a double white line and subsequently speeding to get away, yet he threatened me, tried to ram me, reversed in the tunnel, overtook on the inside using the hard shoulder, stopped in the outside lane of a motorway and reversed on the motorway.
I felt I couldn't go to my local police station at the time because if I'd have been caught in traffic or traffic lights then he'd have had me. I couldn't use my phone to call the police because I couldn't have a single lapse in concentration at any point.
What would you have done, and what could or would you do a few days later after the shock has worn off and the realisation of what actually happened has set in?
- I fully appreciate I shouldn't have flashed, nor should I have reacted to his gestures, and trust me it'll never happen again. I don't need to be told what a stupid muppet I was but we can't all be 100% calm and collected at all times and I was coming back from the office after spending the weekend there finishing a report. No excuses or justifications from me. I shouldn't have done it.
Edited by PetrolDriver on Wednesday 20th June 17:18
Stumps690 said:
Stopped at the toll booth, loads of CCTV probably highways people milling about. Use phone call the police, no need to gun it as it makes you equally as guilty.
Sitting there on the phone doesn't stop a guy who has told you he is going to kill you from actually doing it though, that was my first thought as my mind was racing. Having your murder happen on CCTV doesn't make it any better.PetrolDriver said:
people always find a way of bringing the blame back to the OP by pointing out something he did in error which made it his fault that these nut cases blow a gasket
I've since had time to sit, think and reflect - and would welcome your comments.
I gave him a quick flash to indicate my annoyance,
I gave him the old wker shake
Do you really need us to tell you?I've since had time to sit, think and reflect - and would welcome your comments.
I gave him a quick flash to indicate my annoyance,
I gave him the old w
ker shake Flashing isn't a great idea. But shaking the salt at him was asking for it.
PetrolDriver said:
TonyTony said:
Won't there be any traffic cameras they could look at?
They'll see me speeding. Quite horrendously 
Also, one of my major, major worries is that he spots me again, but at a time when I don't spot him.
His car was fairly distinctive but then mine is no shrinking violet. The only slight relief I have from this worry is that any day now I will have my retention certificate from the DVLA through and I can effectively give my car a new ID. I also have longer than my usual hair at the moment, so I'm going for a short chop.
(I'm that scared of him)
His car was fairly distinctive but then mine is no shrinking violet. The only slight relief I have from this worry is that any day now I will have my retention certificate from the DVLA through and I can effectively give my car a new ID. I also have longer than my usual hair at the moment, so I'm going for a short chop.
(I'm that scared of him)
PetrolDriver said:
They'll see me speeding. Quite horrendously
How would the law work if you where in the process of getting away from a mental person who is trying to hurt you or damage your property though?Kind of the same way you can use reasonable force defending yourself outside of a car I suppose, but surely they can't just say well don't break any laws and just see if he actually wants to kill you or not.
Funny how these scum always think that having kids in the car justifies their retarded actions. Had someone threaten me before "If my kid was in the car i would of killed you" All for an overtake.
I think when some people get kids and realise that they have to live for someone else other than themselves they can't hack it.
I think when some people get kids and realise that they have to live for someone else other than themselves they can't hack it.
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