A question about the PCC elections re: spoiled papers.
Discussion
This is a question about electoral law so I think is more correctly placed here in SP&L than NP&E.
The question is:- Could a UK election be challenged if there are sufficient numbers of spoiled papers?
I am led to understand that the position on spoiled ballots is as follows:-
Every ballot contains papers that are disallowed. This can happen for the following reasons: No official mark, Voting for more candidates than permitted, Writing or marks by which the voter can be identified, Containing no mark or mrks that make the voters intention uncertain. In cases of doubt, the returning officer makes a decision in the presence of their candidates or their agents. The officer's decision is final, but the decision can be challenged by an election petition.
However it is suggested here that to spoil one's ballot paper is of less use than staying home and masturbating into a Pot Noodle.
As much as I dislike even the very existence of Pot Noodles, none of them have ever been that vile to deserve that fate, therefore isn't a route (pun) I will be following.
Anyway over to the legal beagles, plus anyone else with an opinion, i.e. the entire PH community.
The question is:- Could a UK election be challenged if there are sufficient numbers of spoiled papers?
I am led to understand that the position on spoiled ballots is as follows:-
Every ballot contains papers that are disallowed. This can happen for the following reasons: No official mark, Voting for more candidates than permitted, Writing or marks by which the voter can be identified, Containing no mark or mrks that make the voters intention uncertain. In cases of doubt, the returning officer makes a decision in the presence of their candidates or their agents. The officer's decision is final, but the decision can be challenged by an election petition.
However it is suggested here that to spoil one's ballot paper is of less use than staying home and masturbating into a Pot Noodle.
As much as I dislike even the very existence of Pot Noodles, none of them have ever been that vile to deserve that fate, therefore isn't a route (pun) I will be following.
Anyway over to the legal beagles, plus anyone else with an opinion, i.e. the entire PH community.
Elroy Blue said:
I have been told that a spoilt ballot paper is still included in the 'turn out' figures. If this is correct, I would think May and Cameron are hoping lots of the people who are against PCCs do this. They can then claim a higher turnout than is actually valid
I suspect that the turnout will be little better than 15%, spoiled papers or not. Certainly nothing to crow about or claim any real support for the concept of PPCs, let alone those elected.Streaky
Edited by streaky on Sunday 28th October 15:14
Jasandjules said:
No. And I've tried searching. I've even registered on the website to get some information, but all I've had is a little leaflet.
They are the usual professional political party hacks, committee sitters and assorted nutters. None seem to have the first idea about policing or life in general as is clear from their 5 line, vague and clueless manifestos.This will not end well.
eldar said:
They are the usual professional political party hacks, committee sitters and assorted nutters. None seem to have the first idea about policing or life in general as is clear from their 5 line, vague and clueless manifestos.
This will not end well.
I think some people have been making this point for a very long time.This will not end well.
eldar said:
They are the usual professional political party hacks, committee sitters and assorted nutters. None seem to have the first idea about policing or life in general as is clear from their 5 line, vague and clueless manifestos.
This will not end well.
Not sure how mnay candidates we have but the flyer for the tories dropped through the door yesterday. Ex-teacher, councillor for several years - now with a 15 point plan to fight crime that covers every eventuality... This will not end well.
Elroy Blue said:
I read a 'commitment ' from one Tory PCC candidate that he was going to reduce crime by 40%. Look forward to that.
Our, and also your EB, local Labour candidate's opening words are :If elected I will keep politics out of the police by appointing an independent Deputy Commissioner. OK... Labour mission on normal, spend money.
FiF said:
Our, and also your EB, local Labour candidate's opening words are :If elected I will keep politics out of the police by appointing an independent Deputy Commissioner.
OK... Labour mission on normal, spend money.
one of the candidates in York was bitten by a dog whilst pushing her junk mail through a letter boxOK... Labour mission on normal, spend money.
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9998101.Crime_Comm...
I rather wish the dog was standing for election
Elroy Blue said:
I read a 'commitment ' from one Tory PCC candidate that he was going to reduce crime by 40%. Look forward to that.
'Decriming' a variety of offences, discouraging reporting, making it difficult to report, NFAing them, claiming its a "civil matter", ... there are a variety of tricks available to "reduce crime" ... well, the figures, anyway, and that's what it's all about!Streaky
egor110 said:
Re the pcc elections, has anyone got any idea who there local candidates are?
I've had nothing thru the door, heard nothing on local bbc radio or local tv.
I realise the only time you see your mp is when they want your vote but even that seems to much for the pcc candidates.
Go here and enter post code or police area I've had nothing thru the door, heard nothing on local bbc radio or local tv.
I realise the only time you see your mp is when they want your vote but even that seems to much for the pcc candidates.
www.choosemypcc.org.uk.
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