NIP s172 failing to identify driver.

[dazfoz]

Feel free to pick this to pieces if you wish but imagine the following scenareo;

pretty simple really, s172 states that the registered keeper of the vehicle has to identify the driver.

what would happen if the registered keeper happened to be your 6 yr old son/daughter?

they would obvoiusly fail to identify the driver of he vehicle at the time of an alleged offence?

would a magistrate get a 6yo kid into court?

[Boosted Ls1]

You could register the car to a minor but it would play havoc when you tried to renew your insurance. The government, dvla and post office have it well stitched up between them! Of course, you could insure it first.

[dazfoz]

What if you didn't insure the vehicle for theft, and the driver was insured to driver any vehicle with owners concent?

obviously not a good option but possible though!

[bluepolarbear]

dazfoz said:

what would happen if the registered keeper happened to be your 6 yr old son/daughter?

If they did they would pick up the points when they were 17. You need to get your granny on the documents as she won't be bothered if she can drive or not.

Insurance is an issue as most state the insured needs to be the registered however millions of drivers are insured without being the registered company. Need to get you grandad involved and have the car registered to the the company they have set up.

[DeMolay]

The best thing to do in that respect is to register the car with someone who does not (and is unlikely to ever have) a licence.

When the NIP/s172 form arrives, they ignore it. You pay the fine when it goes to court and get off with the points.

[philthy]

I stand to be corrected, but I thought anybody below the age of ten could not be convicted of a criminal offence. If they couldn't convict, how would the kid end up with points when they get their license.
Pie in the sky I know, just goes to show the level of feeling about the way motorists are treated.
Phil

[kevinday]

Also points are only valid for 3 years, and on the licence for 4, so any ten year old would have lost them before applying for a licence at all.

[dazfoz]

OK then looks like i'm registering my car in my little sisters name

[Streetcop]

dazfoz said:

OK then looks like i'm registering my car in my little sisters name

I'm off work for a week..with the exception of a training day on Wednesday...However, upon my return, I will speak to the Font of all knowledge and get you the pros and cons of such action.

Street

[bluepolarbear]

kevinday said:

Also points are only valid for 3 years, and on the licence for 4, so any ten year old would have lost them before applying for a licence at all.

As I understand anyone can get points, if you have not got a licence they sit ready to be "activated" from the moment you do.

The under 10 point is interesting and could be another angle.