Stopped for speeding?

[Streetcop]

I've cut pasted this advice from a website:

How to avoid being nicked when you are stopped.

In a word. Act. However much you want to tell the police how crap his last manoeuvres were, you actually do this .....Dependent on how bad the offence is, because remember, by the time he gets to your car he has pretty well made up his or her mind what they will be doing,
Try your utmost to make the officer truly believe that he has really got to your soul. He will always have a cautionary tale of something gruesome that just happens to have occurred right next to where you are. They make these lectures often. They want to feel that by telling you they can 'make a difference' Be craven, make sure you stop the very instant you know you are going to be stopped, be on the pavement looking seriously glum. If your licence has already has points on it, you are going to need talent. Go with the super-miserable, "Oh god, I of all blokes should know better by now," if you can raise a Hollywood tear you are Oscar material. No matter how base, low and s**t it makes you feel, exult in the aftermath when you get a good ticking-off but no ticket.



Street


>>> Edited by Streetcop on Wednesday 1st September 02:44

[blademan]

Streetcop said:

I've cut pasted this advice from a website: How to avoid being nicked when you are stopped. In a word. Act. However much you want to tell the police how crap his last manoeuvres were, you actually do this .....Dependent on how bad the offence is, because remember, by the time he gets to your car he has pretty well made up his or her mind what they will be doing, Try your utmost to make the officer truly believe that he has really got to your soul. He will always have a cautionary tale of something gruesome that just happens to have occurred right next to where you are. They make these lectures often. They want to feel that by telling you they can 'make a difference' Be craven, make sure you stop the very instant you know you are going to be stopped, be on the pavement looking seriously glum. If your licence has already has points on it, you are going to need talent. Go with the super-miserable, "Oh god, I of all blokes should know better by now," if you can raise a Hollywood tear you are Oscar material. No matter how base, low and s**t it makes you feel, exult in the aftermath when you get a good ticking-off but no ticket. Street >>> Edited by Streetcop on Wednesday 1st September 02:44

Thanks for this Streetcop, it will be useful if I get stopped. Does humour help or is it a no no. I take it the BiB have heard 'em all anyway. I'd rather be stopped by the BiB than scammed anyway. BiB would hopefully dial in the human factor as you suggest. Robocop however is only interested in money though. If only we could get back to having no cameras, or only where they really matter, and loads more Trafpol. OK you may be pissed off with being stopped, but unless you give the BIb a load of lip, they are ok by and large. ( Some are'nt though, but you get this in all walks of life ).eg This morning I was on my bike, having not used it for a while, so I blasted past the odd lorry, thought to myself " I'll have to change my bike, it's too slow" when I looked down and was doing 110mph
If I had been stopped then maybe with lot of grovelling and saying "I,m sorry but I got a bit carried away I,m really sorry" the officer MAY be a bit more lenient, but if I got lasered by Robocop, even if I was only momentarily speeding, then it would be a visit to the
TBH at that speed I reckon if you stopped me it would be anyway
Blademan.

[regmolehusband]

I actually find this quite difficult. It grates to pretend I'm a bad enough driver that I wasn't aware of my speed and the speed limit. Though, as painful as it would be, I can see the sense in an Oscar winning performance even though it implies a degree of driving incompetency.

I got done a few years ago by a long distance laser as I passed through 50 mph signs at 73 mph on that very rural dual carriageway between Kidderminster and Worcester . Well I wasn't going to pretend I hadn't seen the 50 mph speed limit signs!! - I was driving with correct observation and attention and wasn't in a dream!

"Reg"

>> Edited by regmolehusband on Wednesday 1st September 09:08

[cptsideways]

I'd say.......

I've got one of them laser guns, is that an Prolaser 1 or 2 etc etc. Then put on my apologetic hat

[bryan35]

I got asked, after being pulled, if I knew how the Radar gun worked.
I said 'it uses a solid state microwave based magnetron transducer, focussed through a cyanoacrylate based wax lens onto the target vehicle, where the doppler shifter return signal is captured and beat against the originating carrier wave. The signal then returns through a single sideband superhetorodyne filter where the beat frequency is counted and after a calibrated cooficient is applied, can be output as a number relating to speed on the LED display'
More or less.

They still did me.

[robocop]

blademan said:

....Robocop however is only interested in money though... Blademan.

Only my money Blademan!!

The thing I point at people on duty could cost them more than £60!!

rgds

[bluesandtwos]

LOL

[M@H]

Speedcop.. what would you actually advise though..? I'm intrigued that you seem to post a lot of stuff that is basically "cut'n'paste" advice whithout giving it the qualification of your experience..

Cheers
Matt.

[Mr E]

bryan35 said:

I got asked, after being pulled, if I knew how the Radar gun worked. I said 'it uses a solid state microwave based magnetron transducer, focussed through a cyanoacrylate based wax lens onto the target vehicle, where the doppler shifter return signal is captured and beat against the originating carrier wave. The signal then returns through a single sideband superhetorodyne filter where the beat frequency is counted and after a calibrated cooficient is applied, can be output as a number relating to speed on the LED display' More or less. They still did me.

Probably worth the 3 points though.

[Thirsty33]

A colleague was stopped at night on the A31 Ringwood - was clocked between 90 and 123 mph, but he was humble and said he had no reason for the speeding - he got given a fixed penalty, 3 points, for 93mph because the BiB said he was driving well, despite the speed.

I think he was VERY very lucky, but a camera and a judge would have ripped up his licence for 120+.

Personally I think I'd have fainted; it felt bad enough 10 years ago getting told I was clocked at 83 in a 60 - I thought the world was going to end. I did adjust my driving after that, but with a camera I think I'd just have been angry.

[blademan]

robocop said:

blademan said: ....Robocop however is only interested in money though... Blademan. Only my money Blademan!! The thing I point at people on duty could cost them more than £60!! rgds

I did'nt mean YOU personally Robocop.
I was referring to the Gatso's and LaserScams as Robocop, as do other PH'ers.

[robocop]

I know mate...hence the smiley!

Some of us do have a sense of humour..

..can't vouch for all the scamera operators though!

Rgds


perhaps a change of nickname is in order here



>> Edited by robocop on Wednesday 1st September 11:08

[instructor]

I once got stopped in Bromley, Kent, doing 70mph + in a 30mph limit, late for an appointment. I had a sticker on my rear window that said, "My other car is a Reynard!", that was a tongue-in-cheek joke based on the old 'My other car is a Porsche' stickers you could buy. The racing car manufacturer gave them to people who raced their cars. Anyhow, three BiB got out of their jam butty car and asked what I thought I was doing. As soon ss I spoke they realised I wasn't local - I'm from Cheshire. Then one noticed the sticker and asked what it was about. I explained that I was a racing driver, etc, etc, and they acknowledged that my driving, while fast, was obviously quite expert, and to my surprise I was told to have a nice day and, "Go on, off quick, and keep it on the track in future!" They let me off for 70 in a 30! LOL

In my home town, when I was a young upcoming racing driver 27 years ago, getting a fair bit of coverage in my local press, the local BiB had quite a lot of respect for my ability and would usually give me a bollocking rather than do me. I once went around a roundabout at the top of our town in a full-on opposite-lock powerslide doing well above the speed limit, then onto a petrol forecourt, handbraking it onto the pumps! Seconds later a patrol car pulls up on the other side of the pump and the driver looks over then rolls his eyes and says, "Oh it's you! Will you FFS pack it in on public roads??" And he drove off! LOL

[jacko lah]

Works for ME !!

I've been stopped 12 times in 20 years of driving and only once had to produce documents.

I've even used :
Oh my god my wife will kill me.
Oh my god my BOSS will sack me.
And classic this one : yes getting my knee on the floor might not be a good idea but I honestly don't think I was speeding.

[mrwomble]

instructor said:

doing 70mph + in a 30mph limit...I was a racing driver, ...LOL...full-on opposite-lock powerslide...well above the speed limit...handbraking it onto the pumps...LOL

OK, we're all very impressed and I'm sure you're a far better driver than I'll ever be, but do you really think you're doing us any favours here? There's a time and place, and above all a sense of proportion.

To take a parallel: martial artists, right from the word go, are told to keep the fighting in the dojo and kicking off (so to speak) outside gets you a right bollocking. Are racing drivers any different?

[Fat Audi 80]

Urrr I think he was taking the piss!! The gave it away a bit.

I am rarely stopped but here is my 2p's worth:

Try not to piss your pants.
Pull over as if you were on your driving test somewhere safe and sensible.
Sit in car with window down and await further instruction.
You will be asked to leave the vehicle.
Be very nice and apologetic but without arse licking.
Nod take your lecture on the chin like a man and pray he lets you off.....

Drive home very slowly and reflect on the day's events!

[Pigeon]

bryan35 said:

I got asked, after being pulled, if I knew how the Radar gun worked. I said 'it uses a solid state microwave based magnetron transducer...

Magnetrons are not solid state, and they're way over the top for a speed gun... More likely to be a Gunn diode

[bryan35]

Very True Pigeon,
Far beyond the young 'green behind the ears' in the driving seat with the clip board doing the talking and his knuckle scraping colleague though!
The lenses also aren't cyanoacrylate polymer, (as that's superglue) but the lens lens density has to be low to refract radar.
The rest is pretty much true though (I think)
By the way, the knuckle scraper replied "huuuhnnh Dopplah, you a sparks?"
Says it all really doesn't it?

[bryan35]

AND,
they were both sat in the car when the reading was taken, which you absolutely cannot do with a radar gun, not that I knew that at the time.

[deeen]

bryan35 said:

AND, they were both sat in the car when the reading was taken, which you absolutely cannot do with a radar gun, not that I knew that at the time.

Why not?