Correct signage to indicate 30mph limit

[edc]

There is a road nearby where if you approach it from one direction the speed limit changes from 50 to a sign-posted 30mph. However, when approaching this stretch of road from the other direction (ie from the roundabout where the road begins/ends) there is no 30 mph sign but there is a sign indicating the 50 mph limit.

There is no dividing barrier and the road has street lights (if any of this makes any difference).

Is this a 'lawful' 30mph limit?

What else might be needed for this 30mph limit to be lawful?

[Streetcop]

Street lights have to be 200yds apart (188.88) metres, or something of that calculation....

In the absence of any repeater signs, then the road is a restricted road and a 30mph speed limit.

I would complain to the council so that the initial 30mph sign can be either erected or re-erected.

Street

[kevinday]

In the direction that there are signs, is there a sign ending the 30 mph? e.g. 40 mph sign. If not then I would say the start of the road is already in a 30 mph zone so there is nothing wrong with the signage. You do not need a sign at every junction.

[edc]

kevinday said:

In the direction that there are signs, is there a sign ending the 30 mph? e.g. 40 mph sign. If not then I would say the start of the road is already in a 30 mph zone so there is nothing wrong with the signage. You do not need a sign at every junction.

No sign to indicate end of 30 limit. The only sign between 30 sign and end of road is the no stopping red cross on blue circle (only visible in one direction though) plus a few camera illustrations black on white.

[Dwight VanDriver]

From what you say edc is sounds as if the 50 down to 30 one direction is being used as a buffer for the approach to the roundabout, which is not required from the other direction.

Inspection of the Speed Order would confirm this. Likewise there may be an Order de-restricting the lamps.

Either that or a sign has been clobbered and down.

DVD

>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Tuesday 7th September 07:50

[edc]

Thanks.

I might check it out with the council just for interest.

The reason I asked was that the 30 sign is a relatively new addition alongside the camera signs.

Since they have only recently put signage up to indicate 30 limit then it suggests to me that that section of road would have been subject to the 50 limit. Therefore, if the 30 limit is a new order it seems strange that is is only signed from one direction.

I suppose it wouldhave helped if i had actually said this in the first place Hindsight hey ...

[ledfoot]

Dwight VanDriver said:

From what you say edc is sounds as if the 50 down to 30 one direction is being used as a buffer for the approach to the roundabout, which is not required from the other direction.

There is a small section of the A43 dual carriageway near Silverstone that is similar, as it drops to 40MPH approaching a roundabout, but in the reverse direction there is no speed restriction.

[Peter Ward]

Dwight VanDriver said:

From what you say edc is sounds as if the 50 down to 30 one direction is being used as a buffer for the approach to the roundabout, which is not required from the other direction.

I thought that all speed limits had to be "symmetrical", ie. the same in both directions?

If not, why have they put a 50mph limit on the end of the A11 as it approaches the roundabout at Mildenhall (where A1065 splits off) and also on the reverse stretch as it leaves the roundabout?

>> Edited by Peter Ward on Tuesday 7th September 14:04

[ledfoot]

Peter Ward said:

I thought that all speed limits had to be "symmetrical", ie. the same in both directions? If not, why have they put a 50mph limit on the end of the A11 as it approaches the roundabout at Mildenhall (where A1065 splits off) and also on the reverse stretch as it leaves the roundabout?

The 50MPH limit is probably due to the busy 'hazardous' junction ? ?

The restricted side of the A43 has a filling station, so I guess it is seen as being a hazard with cars slowing to exit before the actual roundabout. There are no such 'hazards in the opposite carriageway.

>> Edited by ledfoot on Tuesday 7th September 14:39