bi-weekly parking charge thread

[chongwong]

I recieved a letter through the post advising me that I owe CPP £90 for parking in Morrisons for 3 hours. I park there regularly and honestly thought it was a 3 hour max stay, not 2. It is likely that I was parked there on that particular date for too long however I didn't receive the 'fine' on the car as stated by the letter that has arrived. The 'incident ' was after the new regulations came into force, and I am curious as to whether it can be ignored. Any constructive advice is welcome, cheers.

[Oldandslow]

I'm sure the day shift will be along to correct this but unless it is issued by the council or police any parking "fine" can be ignored. Do not acknowledge or agree to anything.

[tbc]

buy a folder and keep it for your collection

but IGNORE, DO NOT RESPOND

they'll probably send you a letter at worst threatening court action or debt recovery some balls

but it's just to put the wind up you really

they have no access to your details and are not entirely legal so no court will give them the time of day

[liner33]

If they dont have access to his details , how did the letter arrive??

[chongwong]

cheers folks, i'll take that tactic for the time being.

I think that they can obtain registered keeper details from 'Release of Information' from the DVLA, or so the letter says

Edited by chongwong on Sunday 13th January 10:52

[streaky]

The other "bi-weekly parking charge threads" are packed with discussion of this, and with good (and poor) advice.

Streaky

[g3org3y]

liner33 said:

If they dont have access to his details , how did the letter arrive??

Via DVLA iirc.

[chongwong]

streaky said:

The other "bi-weekly parking charge threads" are packed with discussion of this, and with good (and poor) advice.

Streaky

i had had a wee look on the search function, but didn't see anything conclusive for after the the regulation change

[clarkey540i]

File in bin.

[Caulkhead]

chongwong said:

I recieved a letter through the post advising me that I owe CPP £90 for parking in Morrisons for 3 hours. I park there regularly and honestly thought it was a 3 hour max stay, not 2. It is likely that I was parked there on that particular date for too long however I didn't receive the 'fine' on the car as stated by the letter that has arrived. The 'incident ' was after the new regulations came into force, and I am curious as to whether it can be ignored. Any constructive advice is welcome, cheers.

How on earth did you manage to waste three hours of your life in Morrisons?

[Corpulent Tosser]

Caulkhead said:

chongwong said:

I recieved a letter through the post advising me that I owe CPP £90 for parking in Morrisons for 3 hours. I park there regularly and honestly thought it was a 3 hour max stay, not 2. It is likely that I was parked there on that particular date for too long however I didn't receive the 'fine' on the car as stated by the letter that has arrived. The 'incident ' was after the new regulations came into force, and I am curious as to whether it can be ignored. Any constructive advice is welcome, cheers.

How on earth did you manage to waste three hours of your life in Morrisons?

The way I read it he regularly parks there but not while shipping there, effectively taking advantage of free parking, is it any wonder these stores employ companies to prevent being taken advantage of ?

[Steffan]

Corpulent Tosser said:

Caulkhead said:

chongwong said:

I recieved a letter through the post advising me that I owe CPP £90 for parking in Morrisons for 3 hours. I park there regularly and honestly thought it was a 3 hour max stay, not 2. It is likely that I was parked there on that particular date for too long however I didn't receive the 'fine' on the car as stated by the letter that has arrived. The 'incident ' was after the new regulations came into force, and I am curious as to whether it can be ignored. Any constructive advice is welcome, cheers.

How on earth did you manage to waste three hours of your life in Morrisons?

The way I read it he regularly parks there but not while shipping there, effectively taking advantage of free parking, is it any wonder these stores employ companies to prevent being taken advantage of ?

I agree with this post. Whilst I hate parking bullies in general, like the shower in Birmingham who were all done late last year for obtaining money with threats and blackmail and are inside for five years and face huge compensation claims, the owners of the land are generally entitled in law to restrict use as they wish.

Clearly if people are parking for lengthy periods to shop elsewhere etc the owner is entitled to a reasonable charge. Or to deny that parking. You may dispute this but I an unconvinced that the law is not on the owners side. Do we really expect to park on someone elses property for free? How would the average owner feel if their neighbours parked on their drive when they felt like it? Not happy I suspect.

[chongwong]

Caulkhead said:

How on earth did you manage to waste three hours of your life in Morrisons?

Corpulent Tosser said:

The way I read it he regularly parks there but not while shipping there, effectively taking advantage of free parking, is it any wonder these stores employ companies to prevent being taken advantage of ?

Steffan said:

I agree with this post. Whilst I hate parking bullies in general, like the shower in Birmingham who were all done late last year for obtaining money with threats and blackmail and are inside for five years and face huge compensation claims, the owners of the land are generally entitled in law to restrict use as they wish.

Clearly if people are parking for lengthy periods to shop elsewhere etc the owner is entitled to a reasonable charge. Or to deny that parking. You may dispute this but I an unconvinced that the law is not on the owners side. Do we really expect to park on someone elses property for free? How would the average owner feel if their neighbours parked on their drive when they felt like it? Not happy I suspect.

Woah, calm down lads, generally when I park there It's to shop, occasionally i head in to town before or after shopping at Morrisons to pick up other things. On the day in question I did buy some things in Morrisons however I only parked there as I was running very late and had an exam to get to in Schoolhill, the exam was only scheduled to last for 2 and a half hours and i thought it was a 3 hour car park.

When i'm not shopping with them i don't generally park there, i'll head to my girlfriends and leave the car there as she lives in a different (farther away) part of town.

I generally wouldn't park somewhere if i wasn't using there services, I had only used them as i was desperate to get to my exam.

Back on topic however, are the new regulations having an effect.


ETA extra info

Edited by chongwong on Sunday 13th January 16:21

[Caulkhead]

chongwong said:

Caulkhead said:

How on earth did you manage to waste three hours of your life in Morrisons?

Corpulent Tosser said:

The way I read it he regularly parks there but not while shipping there, effectively taking advantage of free parking, is it any wonder these stores employ companies to prevent being taken advantage of ?

Steffan said:

I agree with this post. Whilst I hate parking bullies in general, like the shower in Birmingham who were all done late last year for obtaining money with threats and blackmail and are inside for five years and face huge compensation claims, the owners of the land are generally entitled in law to restrict use as they wish.

Clearly if people are parking for lengthy periods to shop elsewhere etc the owner is entitled to a reasonable charge. Or to deny that parking. You may dispute this but I an unconvinced that the law is not on the owners side. Do we really expect to park on someone elses property for free? How would the average owner feel if their neighbours parked on their drive when they felt like it? Not happy I suspect.

Woah, calm down lads, generally when I park there It's to shop, occasionally i head in to town before or after shopping at Morrisons to pick up other things. On the day in question I did buy some things in Morrisons however I only parked there as I was running very late and had an exam to get to in Schoolhill, the exam was only scheduled to last for 2 and a half hours and i thought it was a 3 hour car park.

When i'm not shopping with them i don't generally park there, i'll head to my girlfriends and leave the car there as she lives in a different (farther away) part of town.

I generally wouldn't park somewhere if i wasn't using there services, I had only used them as i was desperate to get to my exam.

Back on topic however, are the new regulations having an effect.


ETA extra info

Edited by chongwong on Sunday 13th January 16:21

I can understand businesses trying to charge people who use their car parks whilst not shopping at their store.

[chongwong]

Caulkhead said:

I can understand businesses trying to charge people who use their car parks whilst not shopping at their store.

If it helps my case, i did buy lunch, and a lot of beer following the exam, spent around £50, that did only take 10 minutes or so though.

[Steffan]

Caulkhead said:

chongwong said:

Caulkhead said:

How on earth did you manage to waste three hours of your life in Morrisons?

Corpulent Tosser said:

The way I read it he regularly parks there but not while shipping there, effectively taking advantage of free parking, is it any wonder these stores employ companies to prevent being taken advantage of ?

Steffan said:

I agree with this post. Whilst I hate parking bullies in general, like the shower in Birmingham who were all done late last year for obtaining money with threats and blackmail and are inside for five years and face huge compensation claims, the owners of the land are generally entitled in law to restrict use as they wish.

Clearly if people are parking for lengthy periods to shop elsewhere etc the owner is entitled to a reasonable charge. Or to deny that parking. You may dispute this but I an unconvinced that the law is not on the owners side. Do we really expect to park on someone elses property for free? How would the average owner feel if their neighbours parked on their drive when they felt like it? Not happy I suspect.

Woah, calm down lads, generally when I park there It's to shop, occasionally i head in to town before or after shopping at Morrisons to pick up other things. On the day in question I did buy some things in Morrisons however I only parked there as I was running very late and had an exam to get to in Schoolhill, the exam was only scheduled to last for 2 and a half hours and i thought it was a 3 hour car park.

When i'm not shopping with them i don't generally park there, i'll head to my girlfriends and leave the car there as she lives in a different (farther away) part of town.

I generally wouldn't park somewhere if i wasn't using there services, I had only used them as i was desperate to get to my exam.

Back on topic however, are the new regulations having an effect.


ETA extra info

Edited by chongwong on Sunday 13th January 16:21

I can understand businesses trying to charge people who use their car parks whilst not shopping at their store.

Precise;y. It is worth remembering that the quality of the excuse has no bearing in law. The OP chose to park there for an excessive period. His decision, his responsibility. All other things being equal with adequate signage, reasonable notice etc.

[liner33]

g3org3y said:

liner33 said:

If they dont have access to his details , how did the letter arrive??

Via DVLA iirc.

Whoosh!!

[10 Pence Short]

As Registered Keeper, ignoring parking letters is now probably the worst thing you can do. The new law gives you a window in which to name a driver, if they are not one and the same. Ignoring the correspondence puts the PPC into the position of feeling entitled to pursue RK for the charges.

I suggest you ask anyone saying 'ignore' to supply their contact details and agree to pay any charge and additional costs should you be pursued.

[Caulkhead]

chongwong said:

Caulkhead said:

I can understand businesses trying to charge people who use their car parks whilst not shopping at their store.

If it helps my case, i did buy lunch, and a lot of beer following the exam, spent around £50, that did only take 10 minutes or so though.

Well, you have nothing to justify to me, but the way I read supermarket parking rules, if they say three hours they mean three hours shopping in our store, not nip in here for something and then use our car park for the rest of the three hours.

On the other hand, I doubt it will be followed up with any vigour and can be binned.

[clarkey540i]

10 Pence Short said:

As Registered Keeper, ignoring parking letters is now probably the worst thing you can do. The new law gives you a window in which to name a driver, if they are not one and the same. Ignoring the correspondence puts the PPC into the position of feeling entitled to pursue RK for the charges.

I suggest you ask anyone saying 'ignore' to supply their contact details and agree to pay any charge and additional costs should you be pursued.

If it ever gets as far as court, they have to prove loss of earnings. It's broadly the same law as it was before, but the liability now lies with the registered keeper.