talivan type approval?
Discussion
As all the regulars here know, setting off a Gatso on the opposite side of the road is usually fairly safe.
However yesterday I was on a single carriageway, signed 50 mph, doing approx 60 when I saw a shiny van, half obscured by trees until I was level with it. i.e. it was too late to avoid the 60 clam tax
Usually with speedo inaccuracies and the 10% + 2 I would probably not have worried.
In todays climate and tickets for 31mph being issued I will have to sweat it for 14 days. Ok, so far "a fair cop"; but I was wondering if they are allowed to take their pictures from the opposite side of the road?
Thanks muchly
However yesterday I was on a single carriageway, signed 50 mph, doing approx 60 when I saw a shiny van, half obscured by trees until I was level with it. i.e. it was too late to avoid the 60 clam tax
Usually with speedo inaccuracies and the 10% + 2 I would probably not have worried. In todays climate and tickets for 31mph being issued I will have to sweat it for 14 days. Ok, so far "a fair cop"; but I was wondering if they are allowed to take their pictures from the opposite side of the road?
Thanks muchly
Streetcop said:
Other side of the road is ok..but preferable the same side...
The evidence is on video, so no chance of vehicles going the other way giving the reading...
My force is 10% + 4mph...so quite fair compared with some.
Street
Street? Just a quick one.... (perv! not that ) but, who does the nip get sent to in the event of no number plates?
deltaf said:
Other side of the road is ok..but preferable the same side...
The evidence is on video, so no chance of vehicles going the other way giving the reading...
My force is 10% + 4mph...so quite fair compared with some.
Street
Street? Just a quick one.... (perv! not that ) but, who does the nip get sent to in the event of no number plates?
The picture of the vehicle is enhanced and passed around to the police stations in the area. I have small folder with pictures of a couple of cars and several motorcycles who have done similar things...
They'll come again...they always do..
Street
(of course, I get paid whether I find them or not
)
I think it is normal practice for the Chief Constable to set the speed enforcement threshold for the county. That provides continuity for the Safety Camera Partnership and the Police. Then you get the person behind the mobile camera and/or the police officers discretion.
Did you think the levels were different for the 2 bodies?
Well that's how it works up here in Cumbria anyway, I though it was the same elsewhere. Perhaps Inspector Street could enlighten us to the practice in his county.
Did you think the levels were different for the 2 bodies?
Well that's how it works up here in Cumbria anyway, I though it was the same elsewhere. Perhaps Inspector Street could enlighten us to the practice in his county.
SteveCallaghan said:
I think it is normal practice for the Chief Constable to set the speed enforcement threshold for the county. That provides continuity for the Safety Camera Partnership and the Police. Then you get the person behind the mobile camera and/or the police officers discretion.
Did you think the levels were different for the 2 bodies?
Well that's how it works up here in Cumbria anyway, I though it was the same elsewhere. Perhaps Inspector Street could enlighten us to the practice in his county.
Und you so close to LanCASH£re. Thought you knew how the bloke next door to you worked.
They are sort who give you lot blackest name. Two our reps have been pinged at 34mph and one at 35mph and they got invite to the Speed Course "as it was just a bit over the limit". Steve - they are not dangerous drivers - nor would I say they hard core speeders ever. The only time I had to pull my senior rank in company on one of them when driving me somewhere on business was over a Handy use before legislation was introduced.
My husband has colleague who is fightin NIP issued in March for 34mph. The surgeon in question was hurrying back to save his patient. He was pinged a little close to the Lancs hospital.
Do you see our point just a little? We are not getting uniformity and our licences are getting a bit like the NHS treatment itself - a lottery dependent upon where you live and who is charge of the enforcement policy.
Some offer Speed Course and are even more draconian as result as bums on speed course seat equals cash ... which undermines a very laudable and road safety promoting policy - and others have different tolerances for speeding.
It is no wonder people are getting angry about this. In interests of justice and fact that we are all supposedly subject to same rules and laws - the policy should be uniform throughout and etched in concrete and not guidelines which can be manipulated.
And speed courses should be offered for all first offences anyway. As alternative to points up to certain level and in addition to at the more serious offences.
But would still argue that graded assessment every five years or so with carrot of insurance deal would be correct way to proceed anyway.
Wildcat with little input from Mad Doc
who is bringing me nice saucer of milk before bedtime. SteveCallaghan said:
Perhaps Inspector Street could enlighten us to the practice in his county.
Are you taking the 'Michael' Steve?...as I'm not of Inspector rank?
You will have noticed that I don't engage in any 'banter' with your good self on here out of professional courtesy...I presume you are going to extend the same courtesy to me?
Gary
Street
WildCat said:
Und you so close to LanCASH£re. Thought you knew how the bloke next door to you worked.
They are sort who give you lot blackest name. Two our reps have been pinged at 34mph and one at 35mph and they got invite to the Speed Course "as it was just a bit over the limit". Steve - they are not dangerous drivers - nor would I say they hard core speeders ever. The only time I had to pull my senior rank in company on one of them when driving me somewhere on business was over a Handy use before legislation was introduced.
They have a speed awareness course which we do not, yet. They are using slightly lower threshold to pull people i for these that we do a FPN. Our FPN is a slightly lower threshold that theirs.
WildCat said:
My husband has colleague who is fightin NIP issued in March for 34mph. The surgeon in question was hurrying back to save his patient. He was pinged a little close to the Lancs hospital.
Do you see our point just a little? We are not getting uniformity and our licences are getting a bit like the NHS treatment itself - a lottery dependent upon where you live and who is charge of the enforcement policy.
Some offer Speed Course and are even more draconian as result as bums on speed course seat equals cash ... which undermines a very laudable and road safety promoting policy - and others have different tolerances for speeding.
It is no wonder people are getting angry about this. In interests of justice and fact that we are all supposedly subject to same rules and laws - the policy should be uniform throughout and etched in concrete and not guidelines which can be manipulated.
There are moves afoot to make them uniform.
WildCat said:
And speed courses should be offered for all first offences anyway. As alternative to points up to certain level and in addition to at the more serious offences.
Just for the record the Safety Camera Partnership gets no financial return from a speed awareness course.
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But would still argue that graded assessment every five years or so with carrot of insurance deal would be correct way to proceed anyway.
Wildcat with little input from Mad Doc
Good idea
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