A325 NSL reduced to...yes- 30mph
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Anyone else on here noticed that some clever dick has changed this bit of road going from Wrecclesham to Bordon from a NSL to a fecking 30mph limit?
Interesting choice as there is excellent visability throughout the stretch, no houses/shops etc and then it changes back into NSL approx 200 yards before a junction?
What the fu....
Interesting choice as there is excellent visability throughout the stretch, no houses/shops etc and then it changes back into NSL approx 200 yards before a junction?
What the fu....
My girlfriend was driving at the time when we noticed it and I just couldn't believe what they'd done. I did actually look at the first couple of signs closely as we passed as I thought some half-wit speed campaigner might have been out with some adhesive labels, but no. They're the real-deal Holyfield alright.
This is the point when I feel like employing the 'i'll drive at a speed I feel safe at and that are appropriate for the conditions' mindset. Oh well, I suppose points make prizes...LOL.
This is the point when I feel like employing the 'i'll drive at a speed I feel safe at and that are appropriate for the conditions' mindset. Oh well, I suppose points make prizes...LOL.
Rob P said:....then they find that everyone is exceeding the new 30 limit (rightly so), so up goes a scamera!
WHY?!
How can they justify 60 to 30 FFS?
Who passes the change of limit? Why does the motorist not get a say?
There are a few roads like this near me. First they put up those signs "xx related deaths and injuries in 2003 in Notts" then 2 weeks later it becomes a 30 limit.
Crazy.
It's probably not legal anyway. The council put a 30 mph limit on a road near Evesham (A44) and all the speeding fines had to be refunded and points taken off due to a clever solicitor reading the rules . It took months to get it done properly - meanwhile everyone ignored it. Red faces no revenue!
just a wild thought at the wierd way this country is...
sooner or later some mad fool will probably sue the government/local council whatever for not decreasing speed limits earlier, therefore needlessly endangering the public etc etc. it sounds stupid, but ive heard of crazier things
sooner or later some mad fool will probably sue the government/local council whatever for not decreasing speed limits earlier, therefore needlessly endangering the public etc etc. it sounds stupid, but ive heard of crazier things
sorrento205 said:
just a wild thought at the wierd way this country is...
sooner or later some mad fool will probably sue the government/local council whatever for not decreasing speed limits earlier, therefore needlessly endangering the public etc etc. it sounds stupid, but ive heard of crazier things
Maybe someone will sue the government for effectively killing people, given that more people are dead now than would have been had revenue cameras not been introduced. Look at the figures if you want proof! I think you'll find them somewhere on (www.safespeed.org.uk)
Rob P said:
Why does the motorist not get a say?
Technically, you do. They publish a public notice in the local paper. The notice is carefully worded so you can read it through 30 times and still not have a phucking clue what stretch of road they're talking about, by which time your eyes are bleeding due to the tiny print. Of course, non-locals who use the road never see this, so they stick pieces of paper to the lamp-posts with cable ties, which you are supposed to speed-read at 60mph as you pass, as long as it hasn't yet rained and reduced them to illegible pulp.
It's high time this crap was sorted out. The legislation should be changed to require the notice in the local paper to be a double-page spread, written in plain English, with an Ordnance Survey map extract at 1:50,000 scale or larger marked to indicate the location in question. This should also be reproduced larger, filling the side of an artic trailer, which should then be parked conspicuously at the side of the road in question, somewhere where it is safe to pull up and read it thoroughly.
Rob P said:
WHY?!
How can they justify 60 to 30 FFS?
Who passes the change of limit? Why does the motorist not get a say?
There are a few roads like this near me. First they put up those signs "xx related deaths and injuries in 2003 in Notts" then 2 weeks later it becomes a 30 limit.
Crazy.
NSL is not the same as a blanket 60 but that's just being pedantic
Pigeon said:
Rob P said:
Why does the motorist not get a say?
Technically, you do. They publish a public notice in the local paper. The notice is carefully worded so you can read it through 30 times and still not have a phucking clue what stretch of road they're talking about, by which time your eyes are bleeding due to the tiny print. Of course, non-locals who use the road never see this, so they stick pieces of paper to the lamp-posts with cable ties, which you are supposed to speed-read at 60mph as you pass, as long as it hasn't yet rained and reduced them to illegible pulp.
It's high time this crap was sorted out. The legislation should be changed to require the notice in the local paper to be a double-page spread, written in plain English, with an Ordnance Survey map extract at 1:50,000 scale or larger marked to indicate the location in question. This should also be reproduced larger, filling the side of an artic trailer, which should then be parked conspicuously at the side of the road in question, somewhere where it is safe to pull up and read it thoroughly.
Well said mate, but even then , if everyone complained, would it still make a blind bit of difference? I doubt it. The old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it" springs to mind. No doubt in a couple of years some graduate who works for the local authority and doesn't drive a car will have the fantastic idea of altering the limit on these roads again. Then a couple of years later........
>> Edited by Themoss on Tuesday 14th September 22:58
What really gets me is the obvious stupidity of what they're doing...
They go round making the A and large B roads 50 limits (or less) and then have to stick NSL signs on every junction with a little unclassified road.
So they're saying that its never safe to exceed 50 on a wind straight bit of road, but it might be on the tiny winding country lane that joins it. Brain dead morons the lot of them...
They go round making the A and large B roads 50 limits (or less) and then have to stick NSL signs on every junction with a little unclassified road.
So they're saying that its never safe to exceed 50 on a wind straight bit of road, but it might be on the tiny winding country lane that joins it. Brain dead morons the lot of them...
Just on the edge of frome a short nsl stretch was reduced to a 30 limit a couple of months ago. Why? because there will be an asda built on that strech in 18 months... sounds like a sensible speed limit, but the shop isnt there yet, so ??? maybe a month before, with a temporary 40 during heavy construction periods?
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