Reply from road safety partnership
Discussion
>>> 02 September 2004 03:10:01 >>>
MY QUESTION.
Do you agree that it should become law, that if a person crosses the
road
where there is no crossing, yet there is one nearby (pelican/zebra
crossing)
also known as jaywalking. That if there is an accident it is the
pedestrian's
fault and the driver absoloved of all guilt regardless of speed. Lets
say the
crossing must be within seeing distance, can't determine yards. I only
say
this because I am sick of drivers being blamed for jaywalking
incidents. My
sister was hit by a bus crossing a road when a pelican was 10 meters
away. She
was ok, but stupid had she died I would've blamed her not the driver.
If you
rear end someone it is you're fault AUTOMATICALLY, same principle if a
crossing
is availible like it usually is use it. Less points schemes and more
punishment i say, I wish pedestrians could get NIPs.
Driver
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THEN THEIR REPLY.
Thank you for your e-mail.
We are aware that some pedestrians put themselves, and others, in
potential dangerous situations by walking into the road and in front of
moving vehicles. Pedestrians have a duty, along with all other highway
users, to ensure that their use of the highway does not create an unsafe
environment and that nuisance is minimised.
The Department tries, through the Highway Code and other publicity
materials, to educate pedestrians to act correctly and carefully when
using the roads. The Code warns pedestrians to watch out for traffic if
they have to step into the road and to use either a zebra or pelican
crossing if they are located nearby. However, we do not believe that we
could justify the introduction of legislation making jay walking
illegal. Enforcement would be difficult and it is doubtful whether
pedestrians would be prepared to respect such a law without strict
enforcement.
We will, of course, continue to educate pedestrians through our
publicity materials.
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YOU DECIDE.............................................
MY QUESTION.
Do you agree that it should become law, that if a person crosses the
road
where there is no crossing, yet there is one nearby (pelican/zebra
crossing)
also known as jaywalking. That if there is an accident it is the
pedestrian's
fault and the driver absoloved of all guilt regardless of speed. Lets
say the
crossing must be within seeing distance, can't determine yards. I only
say
this because I am sick of drivers being blamed for jaywalking
incidents. My
sister was hit by a bus crossing a road when a pelican was 10 meters
away. She
was ok, but stupid had she died I would've blamed her not the driver.
If you
rear end someone it is you're fault AUTOMATICALLY, same principle if a
crossing
is availible like it usually is use it. Less points schemes and more
punishment i say, I wish pedestrians could get NIPs.
Driver
-------------------------------------------------------
THEN THEIR REPLY.
Thank you for your e-mail.
We are aware that some pedestrians put themselves, and others, in
potential dangerous situations by walking into the road and in front of
moving vehicles. Pedestrians have a duty, along with all other highway
users, to ensure that their use of the highway does not create an unsafe
environment and that nuisance is minimised.
The Department tries, through the Highway Code and other publicity
materials, to educate pedestrians to act correctly and carefully when
using the roads. The Code warns pedestrians to watch out for traffic if
they have to step into the road and to use either a zebra or pelican
crossing if they are located nearby. However, we do not believe that we
could justify the introduction of legislation making jay walking
illegal. Enforcement would be difficult and it is doubtful whether
pedestrians would be prepared to respect such a law without strict
enforcement.
We will, of course, continue to educate pedestrians through our
publicity materials.
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YOU DECIDE.............................................
However, we do not believe that we
could justify the introduction of legislation making jay walking
illegal.
/ME[Oh it's illegal to blip it in a empty motorway, but a thieving 14 y/o can rob a granny and get a rehabilitation order
]
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Enforcement would be difficult and it is doubtful whether
pedestrians would be prepared to respect such a law without strict
enforcement.
/ME[
OMG, you can't enforce civvies crossing the battle ground of the road, yet you can stop a car doing 31 in a 30 
ds the lot of 'em]
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>> Edited by niceguy1 on Wednesday 15th September 20:11
could justify the introduction of legislation making jay walking
illegal.
/ME[Oh it's illegal to blip it in a empty motorway, but a thieving 14 y/o can rob a granny and get a rehabilitation order
] -------------------------------------------------------
Enforcement would be difficult and it is doubtful whether
pedestrians would be prepared to respect such a law without strict
enforcement.
/ME[
OMG, you can't enforce civvies crossing the battle ground of the road, yet you can stop a car doing 31 in a 30 ds the lot of 'em] -------------------------------------------------------
>> Edited by niceguy1 on Wednesday 15th September 20:11
niceguy1 said:
The Department tries, through the Highway Code and other publicity
materials, to educate pedestrians to act correctly and carefully when
using the roads.
I wonder if they could enlighten us, 'other publicity'? what frigging publicity, a physically impossible video of a kid being knocked over by a murderous motorist? 'Highway code'? a book that is filed under bin as soon as the test is passed. Just how f**king hard are they trying? how much of our stolen money are they using on this 'publicity'
niceguy1 said:
Pedestrians have a duty, along with all other highway
users, to ensure that their use of the highway does not create an unsafe
environment and that nuisance is minimised.
And what about that nonsense about driver being liable?
safety pratnership who wonders why we lose patience said:
However, we do not believe that we
could justify the introduction of legislation making jay walking
illegal. Enforcement would be difficult and it is doubtful whether
pedestrians would be prepared to respect such a law without strict
enforcement.
Works fine and dandy back home in Schweiz...... has done for years.....
wally from safety pratnership said:
We will, of course, continue to educate pedestrians through our
publicity materials.
Ach yes, Liebchen - the "singing" hedgehogs .... which appear very infrequently and are about as informative and as useful as a chocolate sump plug ...
niceguy1 said:
The Department tries, through the Highway Code and other publicity materials, to educate pedestrians to act correctly and carefully when using the roads.
Wotta loada Bollox!!!! they're just lazy good for nothings who could not and would not prosecute, unless of course the jaywalkers wore a numberplate or chip.... oh yes I forgot, Mad Mullah Blunkett has already proposed the chip be installed at birth...
Where's the Green Cross Code nowadays, where's the TV advert which says "you might DIE if you don't look before crossing"
scamera wally said:Fuzzy duck! We're all pedestrians at some times. I don't remember seeing anything aimed at pedestrians since I was at school!
The Department tries, through the Highway Code and other publicity materials, to educate pedestrians to act correctly and carefully when
using the roads.
scamera wally might have said:
However, we do not believe that we could justify the introduction of legislation making speeding illegal. Enforcement would be difficult and it is doubtful whether drivers would be prepared to respect such a law without strict
enforcement.
Singapore already has the jay walking bit firmly embedded into its culture.
My dad lived out there for about 2 years, when I went to visit, that was the first thing he warned me off.
What you have are these little signs with an arrow pointing to the nearest crossing, if you are within sight distance of either crossing or sign then you must cross using the crossing. Everyone seemed to obay this while I was there.
My dad lived out there for about 2 years, when I went to visit, that was the first thing he warned me off.
What you have are these little signs with an arrow pointing to the nearest crossing, if you are within sight distance of either crossing or sign then you must cross using the crossing. Everyone seemed to obay this while I was there.
[quote=JMGS4]
Where's the Green Cross Code nowadays [quote]
in my day you didn't dare not follow the gcc or darth vader would come and get you.
my eldest asked the other day why don't the hedgehogs follow there own advice as i was walking her to school as we passed a pancaked one in the road
Where's the Green Cross Code nowadays [quote]
in my day you didn't dare not follow the gcc or darth vader would come and get you.
my eldest asked the other day why don't the hedgehogs follow there own advice as i was walking her to school as we passed a pancaked one in the road
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