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bigkev61 said:
stopped by police over a year ago and i had no driving licence, have not heard anything about it from them , i now want to get a licence , would the no licence come up when i do apply for one ?
IIRC it's 9 points for no licence.Does that mean that as a probationer you'd lose you're licence immediately?
sleep envy said:
IIRC it's 9 points for no licence.
Does that mean that as a probationer you'd lose you're licence immediately?
No it isn't. It's 3 points for driving otherwise than in accordance. I'm surprised they haven't also gone for no insurance as well though?Does that mean that as a probationer you'd lose you're licence immediately?
In any case your best bet would be to contact DVLA.
Unless you have been disqualified then there shouldn't be a problem in applying for a licence.
14-7 said:
No it isn't. It's 3 points for driving otherwise than in accordance. I'm surprised they haven't also gone for no insurance as well though?
In any case your best bet would be to contact DVLA.
Unless you have been disqualified then there shouldn't be a problem in applying for a licence.
6 points for no insurance isn't it? And if you have no licence you have no insurance which would make 9 points, or is it not that simple?In any case your best bet would be to contact DVLA.
Unless you have been disqualified then there shouldn't be a problem in applying for a licence.
clarkey540i said:
14-7 said:
No it isn't. It's 3 points for driving otherwise than in accordance. I'm surprised they haven't also gone for no insurance as well though?
6 points for no insurance isn't it? And if you have no licence you have no insurance which would make 9 points, or is it not that simple?6 or more points before he gets a licence wouldn't mean his licence was revoked as soon as he passed his test (that would be a bit silly), but it would mean that any further points at all within 2 years of passing would mean his licence was revoked.
Aretnap said:
3-6 for no licence (fixed penalty is 3) and 6-8 for no insurance (fixed penalty is 6) ( linky). However if you're convicted of two offences committed on the same occasion you usually only get the points for the more serious one (another linky, subsection 4), so 6-8 in total.
6 or more points before he gets a licence wouldn't mean his licence was revoked as soon as he passed his test (that would be a bit silly), but it would mean that any further points at all within 2 years of passing would mean his licence was revoked.
Interesting, I never knew that, thanks!6 or more points before he gets a licence wouldn't mean his licence was revoked as soon as he passed his test (that would be a bit silly), but it would mean that any further points at all within 2 years of passing would mean his licence was revoked.
I thought that if you got 6 points within your first 2 years of driving, you had to retake your test? Does that not count if you already have those points? Does it also apply to people re-doing their test, or just for people passing the first time?
It's not 100% correct to say "6 points within 2 years of passing your test". Your licence is revoked if, in the two years after you pass your test, you're convicted of an offence which brings your points total to 6 or more ( legislation). So points acquired before you pass your test are carried over into the probationary period, but if you already have 6 on the day you pass it doesn't mean your licence revoked immediately, it just means it gets revoked as soon as you get some more points.
Actually having 3 points on the day you pass has much the same effect, if you ignore the fact that there are a couple of obscure offences which can get you a mere 2 points.
The probationary period only applies once ( link). If you get 6 or more points, have your licence revoked, and retake your test then a further 6 points won't mean it gets revoked again. However all the points remain active for 3 years and this isn't affected by the revocation, so depending on the timescales you'd probably now have 12, and you'd be looking at a totting ban.
Actually having 3 points on the day you pass has much the same effect, if you ignore the fact that there are a couple of obscure offences which can get you a mere 2 points.
The probationary period only applies once ( link). If you get 6 or more points, have your licence revoked, and retake your test then a further 6 points won't mean it gets revoked again. However all the points remain active for 3 years and this isn't affected by the revocation, so depending on the timescales you'd probably now have 12, and you'd be looking at a totting ban.
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