Court Summons for Photocard licence?
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Not been fied or summoned to court but I am having issues with the purchase of a house.
I thought it would be a good idea to wait a few weeks before updating the photo so I didnt need to send it away again with the new address. Turns out that the bank are happy to give me the money I need for the house but the solicitors arn't happy about passing it to me lol.
Looks like I have a trip to swansea coming.
I thought it would be a good idea to wait a few weeks before updating the photo so I didnt need to send it away again with the new address. Turns out that the bank are happy to give me the money I need for the house but the solicitors arn't happy about passing it to me lol.
Looks like I have a trip to swansea coming.
X10Archer said:
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone else had received a court summons or been fined for an expired photocard licence? Would be interested to know the details! Cheers.
If you have been fined I'm sure we would be intersted in your details. What is the fine for an expired licence?Just wondering if anyone else had received a court summons or been fined for an expired photocard licence? Would be interested to know the details! Cheers.
redstu said:
X10Archer said:
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone else had received a court summons or been fined for an expired photocard licence? Would be interested to know the details! Cheers.
If you have been fined I'm sure we would be intersted in your details. What is the fine for an expired licence?Just wondering if anyone else had received a court summons or been fined for an expired photocard licence? Would be interested to know the details! Cheers.
Daston said:
Not been fied or summoned to court but I am having issues with the purchase of a house.
I thought it would be a good idea to wait a few weeks before updating the photo so I didnt need to send it away again with the new address. Turns out that the bank are happy to give me the money I need for the house but the solicitors arn't happy about passing it to me lol.
Looks like I have a trip to swansea coming.
What would they do if you weren't a driver?I thought it would be a good idea to wait a few weeks before updating the photo so I didnt need to send it away again with the new address. Turns out that the bank are happy to give me the money I need for the house but the solicitors arn't happy about passing it to me lol.
Looks like I have a trip to swansea coming.
Daston said:
Not been fied or summoned to court but I am having issues with the purchase of a house.
I thought it would be a good idea to wait a few weeks before updating the photo so I didnt need to send it away again with the new address. Turns out that the bank are happy to give me the money I need for the house but the solicitors arn't happy about passing it to me lol.
Looks like I have a trip to swansea coming.
Passport, utility bills? I thought it would be a good idea to wait a few weeks before updating the photo so I didnt need to send it away again with the new address. Turns out that the bank are happy to give me the money I need for the house but the solicitors arn't happy about passing it to me lol.
Looks like I have a trip to swansea coming.
Daston said:
Not been fied or summoned to court but I am having issues with the purchase of a house.
I thought it would be a good idea to wait a few weeks before updating the photo so I didnt need to send it away again with the new address. Turns out that the bank are happy to give me the money I need for the house but the solicitors arn't happy about passing it to me lol.
Looks like I have a trip to swansea coming.
It's a well-known fact that people with recently expired driving licences and/or passports instantly become money launderers although they were totally innocent beforehand.I thought it would be a good idea to wait a few weeks before updating the photo so I didnt need to send it away again with the new address. Turns out that the bank are happy to give me the money I need for the house but the solicitors arn't happy about passing it to me lol.
Looks like I have a trip to swansea coming.
Why else would recently expired documents be a problem?
Common sense? R.I.P.
I had a call from Chanel Five journalist about this issue yesetrday. If you are interested in being famous then give me a shout and I will email you her contact details. She was asking if I had had any clients charged to court with this issue and I had to be honest and state that you are a rare bread (sorry)... If you are interested she wanted to have a chat with someone just like you.......
tom5678 said:
I think(!?) that it's not an offence to have an expired photocard license, the offence is not being able to produce a valid license if requested. May be wrong but this is what I was told when taking a minibus training course and had an expired photocard.
It's an offence not to surrender the licence when the photocard expires - Road Traffic Act 99(2A) and 99(5), so yes it is an offence to have an expired photocard.Aretnap said:
It's an offence not to surrender the licence when the photocard expires - Road Traffic Act 99(2A) and 99(5), so yes it is an offence to have an expired photocard.
That's what I'm saying, an offence not to produce, not an offence to have an expired card in your wallet. I know it's trivial but it's a difference none the less. tom5678 said:
Aretnap said:
It's an offence not to surrender the licence when the photocard expires - Road Traffic Act 99(2A) and 99(5), so yes it is an offence to have an expired photocard.
That's what I'm saying, an offence not to produce, not an offence to have an expired card in your wallet. I know it's trivial but it's a difference none the less. vonhosen said:
It's not 'offence not to produce', it's a failure to surrender on expiry. You commit the offence irrespective of whether you are driving (or not), whether you have it in your wallet (or not) & whether you produce it on demand (or not).
This. "Surrender" means "send it back to the DVLA", not "show it to a copper when asked". You must also surrender your licence immediately if your name or address change - same section.Aretnap said:
vonhosen said:
It's not 'offence not to produce', it's a failure to surrender on expiry. You commit the offence irrespective of whether you are driving (or not), whether you have it in your wallet (or not) & whether you produce it on demand (or not).
This. "Surrender" means "send it back to the DVLA", not "show it to a copper when asked". You must also surrender your licence immediately if your name or address change - same section.My father is 85, and when his clean licence expired, nobody bothered to remind him!
He is still driving and has had no problems whatsoever with insurance etc. and having not changed address since 1993, does not have a photocard.
He has only had one not-at-fault accident on the road, and one drunk driver ran into his parked car (so drunk he was arrested passed out at his home a short while after) so perhaps they let him off for good behaviour!
He was driving for some time before he had to pass a test, turning 17 during the war, and was simply issued with his 1st licence!
He is still driving and has had no problems whatsoever with insurance etc. and having not changed address since 1993, does not have a photocard.
He has only had one not-at-fault accident on the road, and one drunk driver ran into his parked car (so drunk he was arrested passed out at his home a short while after) so perhaps they let him off for good behaviour!
He was driving for some time before he had to pass a test, turning 17 during the war, and was simply issued with his 1st licence!
vonhosen said:
Aretnap said:
vonhosen said:
It's not 'offence not to produce', it's a failure to surrender on expiry. You commit the offence irrespective of whether you are driving (or not), whether you have it in your wallet (or not) & whether you produce it on demand (or not).
This. "Surrender" means "send it back to the DVLA", not "show it to a copper when asked". You must also surrender your licence immediately if your name or address change - same section.Well if he ever gets a producer, he's in trouble. Is it worth the hassle?
I forgot to update mine after moving house..
Got a tug by plod and couldn't produce a licence with my current address at the local Plod shop. I'd sent it off to the DVLA once I realised I had an issue. Anyway, I produced insurance and a photocopy of my licence. I sent off my paperwork together with the FPN fine only to have it returned by the Court informing me that as I could not produce a valid licence I was not eligible for a Fixed Penalty and would therefore have to attend Court. They kindly returned my £60 cheque for the fine.
That fortunately was the last I heard about the matter as they must have lost my case in their 'system'.
I got my licence back with my new address, nil points, no fine. Result!
Its a few years ago now, so
I forgot to update mine after moving house..
Got a tug by plod and couldn't produce a licence with my current address at the local Plod shop. I'd sent it off to the DVLA once I realised I had an issue. Anyway, I produced insurance and a photocopy of my licence. I sent off my paperwork together with the FPN fine only to have it returned by the Court informing me that as I could not produce a valid licence I was not eligible for a Fixed Penalty and would therefore have to attend Court. They kindly returned my £60 cheque for the fine.
That fortunately was the last I heard about the matter as they must have lost my case in their 'system'.
I got my licence back with my new address, nil points, no fine. Result!
Its a few years ago now, so
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