Opinion of Traffic Police

[blademan]

I watched the program Traffic Police last night, which was a fly on the wall documentary on a day in the life of a South Yorkshire Traffic Cop.

I tell you what, all I can say to you Trafpol guy's is


Ok so perhaps they were being extra polite to the people that they nicked ( being on camera- I dont know ) but Iv'e got nothing but respect and admiration for you guys. I must admit to being concerned at the reduction in Trafpol from 150 to 110 personnel. FFS what is wrong with this ing goverment. Also concerned that because of staff levels, the poor plod has to work alone a lot of the time. Last nights show was just ing excellent. Plod were very professional, and TBH showed a good degree of sympathy when they didnt really need to, but they still upheld the law. Once again, well done guys. Brilliant job.

[Streetcop]

Thank you for your kind words.....

I watched it also and it was a good episode....Any items on the program need extra discussion?

Street

[blademan]

Streetcop said:

Any items on the program need extra discussion? Street

Morning Street.
1.Does the show typify a normal day for you guys?

2.Surprised that a driving on Provisional with a non driver only gets £30 and 3 points?

3.Did you notice what the red escort driver said ( the one who drove across the grass ). He said it was better in prison because at least you get fed and a roof over your head.......comments?

4.Thought the big guy with the glasses who helped the stupid girls with the pram handled that situation really well.

[Streetcop]

blademan said:

Streetcop said: Any items on the program need extra discussion? Street Morning Street. 1.Does the show typify a normal day for you guys?

About average...but a little busy, ie chases..(obviously, the program was filmed over a number of weeks, I'd presume)

blademan said:

2.Surprised that a driving on Provisional with a non driver only gets £30 and 3 points?

I didn't hear that, but it's very unusual if not incorrect. It's always 6 points (ie: no insurance also)...however, the fines can be anything..depending on the marbles of the magistrate..

blademan said:

3.Did you notice what the red escort driver said ( the one who drove across the grass ). He said it was better in prison because at least you get fed and a roof over your head.......comments?

That's the feeling amongst lots of villains. Just shows how cushy a number it is inside when you're scummy. Normal guys like you and I would find it hell..but if it's all you know..you are going back to something familiar.

blademan said:

4.Thought the big guy with the glasses who helped the stupid girls with the pram handled that situation really well.

I didn't see that, but have seen the program before and presume it was the girls walking along a dual carraigeway at night with a baby in a pram? Yeh..he looks a nice guy...

Street

[jeremyadamson]

The scrote with the stolen escort typifies exactly the problem with our prisons. They are not scarey or unpleasant enough, so the ex-cons don't mind getting put back inside and being fed by the tax payers for another few months. For me, the loss of freedom of movement would be horrendous, but these people don't seem to mind. There's clearly alot to be said for the medieval way of doing things.

[Streetcop]

Not even that...what about the military way of doing things....

Soldiers who get sent to Colchester "Glass House", even if only for a couple of weeks, come back a shadow of their former selves and have no desire to return...

Street

[jeremyadamson]

Hi Street - so what do they do to them??

[bryan35]

I think the 50's national service program on TV was a good idea as a way to go.
Interestingly I read a book recently by a well known author (was he a conservative peer?) who found himself serving time in Belmarsh and typically for him wrote a novel about it (what a guy!!!)
He was commenting on why scrotes in for GBH could spend all day everyday pumping iron in the gym?
'keeps them quiet' apparently.
Hmm

[Streetcop]

jeremyadamson said:

Hi Street - so what do they do to them??

What? In Colchester?

It's called a Military Corrective Training Centre...
(I did 6.5 years in the forces and never went there..thanksfully)

Anyway..You RUN everywhere...(or Double to be correct)..Every morning, there is a kit inspection (52 piece)..brasses polished, shirts ironed, even socks shaved so no fluff is present. Failure to get it right, will mean 'beastings' later (long runs, press ups etc etc).

There aren't any TV's or DVD or any of that stuff. It's all YES SIR, NO SIR, THREE BAGS FULL SIR...

It's hard labour and the 'screws' who are military police, don't take any shit whatsoever...(human rights.. )

Sorted the men from the boys and neither wanted to go back... Reconviction rate is 43%....a lot lower than normal prisoners..

Street

>> Edited by Streetcop on Monday 20th September 11:03

[blademan]

bryan35 said:

I think the 50's national service program on TV was a good idea as a way to go. Interestingly I read a book recently by a well known author (was he a conservative peer?) who found himself serving time in Belmarsh and typically for him wrote a novel about it (what a guy!!!) He was commenting on why scrotes in for GBH could spend all day everyday pumping iron in the gym? 'keeps them quiet' apparently. Hmm

I personally think that those of a certain persuasion, know that the sentencing is so molly these days, and as has been said, they dont mind a stretch anyway. The only way the real crims are going to be deterred is to have real nasty sentencing like they have in Saudi/ Thailand etc. Barbaric you may think, but their crime rate is much less than ours. I mean, what crim in their right mind would shoplift if they knew their hands would be cut off. Sentencing is getting lighter. Crime is increasing. ( Yeah yeah Mr Bliar, I know its at its lowest for years blah blah ). I am one of those individuals who thinks that the Death sentence should be brought back for eg serial killers where there is absolutely no doubt they were guilty. Its an emotive subject I know, but the current system is not deterring crims from repeat offending. Oh well, bring in the Psychologists I suppose

[bryan35]

you notice that the tree hugging human rights lot are infact correct wen they say that people are upset if they are treated in a 'national service' sort of way. And they'd be right, but only in the short term. Have you seen the calibre of person who comes out the other end?
Best rehad you could ever have in my opinion.

[jeremyadamson]

I agree with some of your sentiments, but not the capital punishment. If it was limited to serial killers etc as you suggest, it wouldn't provide a deterrent, because these people's psychoses often leave them with no choice but to commit the crimes. Nothing will deter them. The only thing that the death sentence does is save the tax payer some money in prison fees. I for one think that the mis-carriages of justice levels are still far too high to permit it. If someone gets sent down, and then subsequently cleared, monetary compensation often goes a long way (although not all the way) to make things better, depending on the circumstances naturally. Post-humous compensation is somewhat harder. Same goes for the Saudi way of cutting limbs. You couldn't possibly ever compensate someone for that. Always remember, 'There, but for the grace of God, go I'.

[blademan]

bryan35 said:

you notice that the tree hugging human rights lot are infact correct wen they say that people are upset if they are treated in a 'national service' sort of way. And they'd be right, but only in the short term. Have you seen the calibre of person who comes out the other end? Best rehad you could ever have in my opinion.

Dead right mate.

[Streetcop]

Quite topical..>I was in the custody area of a police station recently and saw a male at the desk wearing DPM British Army uniform.

It would appear that the guy was answering bail regarding a drink driving incident. The man was in his mid twenties and was stood 'at ease' with his hands behind his back, upright and smart. A chavscum was nearby, all slouched and scruffy...It wasn't hard to decide who to sympathise with, regardless of crime.

Street

[blademan]

Streetcop said:

Quite topical..>I was in the custody area of a police station recently and saw a male at the desk wearing DPM British Army uniform. It would appear that the guy was answering bail regarding a drink driving incident. The man was in his mid twenties and was stood 'at ease' with his hands behind his back, upright and smart. A chavscum was nearby, all slouched and scruffy...It wasn't hard to decide who to sympathise with, regardless of crime. Street

Street.
Did you get my email?

[Streetcop]

I've got it now mate and will reply..



Street

[jeremyadamson]

Why would she have a problem getting heroin in prison?? From what you see on the TV, it's freely available.

O/T: I cannot, to this day, understand why people (knowing the risks which we all do nowadays) get into serious drugs. It's a horrendous situation. I just can't see why it is that people start doing something that they know they can't afford and will them over in every possible way. Perhaps I need to hear the other side of things from my sheltered life, but I find it hard to feel more than a little sympathy for these people where they are in a predicament of their own making, and are then expecting those of us that pay taxes to support their rehab.

[jacko lah]

I think these Police Programs are SOOOOOOO patronising.

The Cops hamming it up for the camera, pretending to be calm and generous and professional.

It's propoganda of the worst sort, TV companies should be actively presenting the police's weaknesses instead of pandering to them.

When's Mark Thomas next on ? He don't take that sort of crap.

[TDTH1975]

I only had one question that sort of raised an eyebrow when watching. The trafpol were reduced from 150 - 110 which as previously mentioned is far from ideal. However, the black audi chase - something like 11 pandas in a row all following one and other down a little road. Maybe a little unecessary and would almost give the impression that even less cops are needed if we can afford to dedicate so many to one chase. Whilst I don't agree and am a big fan or more trafpol than less, why did central control (or what ever it is called) not pull some of the pandas out to go about alternative business? Is it routine to have so many cars following one car - looked like one of those staged american police documentaries where the world and its friends all sit in 3 lanes of a motorway watching the villain drive along. Curious.

[james_j]

It may have been this program, although there are a number of similar ones on at the moment, but I remember one comment clearly, made at the start of the program over a crash scene.

The commentator said: "...the majority of accidents are caused by inattention..."

I thought, "mmmm interesting, no mention of speed."