Need help with old PCN from TfL, baliff coming in 7 days!!
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Back in Feb 2012 i received a PNC through the post from TfL for having my back wheels of my A6 slightly in a yellow box junction near the Rotherhithe tunnel in London. The photo which was on the PCN clearly showed I’d left enough room between the car in front of me so pedestrians on the crossing could cross the road without my car blocking their path and this was the sole reason my rear tyres were in the box. I felt I was be punished for being a considerate driver and wrote to TfL to appeal against the penalty. I never heard anything back but I’d recently moved house so I called TfL and asked what the situation was and they said they had sent a letter out to my old address but could not tell me the out come over the phone, I would have to write in and explain I have moved and they will re-send their conclusion to me new address. To which I did, however I never received anything from Tfl and thought they had written it off and never gave much thought to it however yesterday evening I receive a letter from a balliff telling me if I don’t pay within 7 days they will be paying me a visit, brilliant. Fine is now £200!!
So what do I do now to bided me time to strongly defend this claim or is it too late. Can I get a reprieve of the court order???? Lucky I’m a highway engineer and I’m hoping there is a loop whole with the yellow box junction or just plainly defend my case that being a considerate driver was my downfall. I wasn’t blocking anyone movements, the junction is massive, its clearly a money making junction for them.
People thoughts would help as I only have seven days to sort this!!
Back in Feb 2012 i received a PNC through the post from TfL for having my back wheels of my A6 slightly in a yellow box junction near the Rotherhithe tunnel in London. The photo which was on the PCN clearly showed I’d left enough room between the car in front of me so pedestrians on the crossing could cross the road without my car blocking their path and this was the sole reason my rear tyres were in the box. I felt I was be punished for being a considerate driver and wrote to TfL to appeal against the penalty. I never heard anything back but I’d recently moved house so I called TfL and asked what the situation was and they said they had sent a letter out to my old address but could not tell me the out come over the phone, I would have to write in and explain I have moved and they will re-send their conclusion to me new address. To which I did, however I never received anything from Tfl and thought they had written it off and never gave much thought to it however yesterday evening I receive a letter from a balliff telling me if I don’t pay within 7 days they will be paying me a visit, brilliant. Fine is now £200!!
So what do I do now to bided me time to strongly defend this claim or is it too late. Can I get a reprieve of the court order???? Lucky I’m a highway engineer and I’m hoping there is a loop whole with the yellow box junction or just plainly defend my case that being a considerate driver was my downfall. I wasn’t blocking anyone movements, the junction is massive, its clearly a money making junction for them.
People thoughts would help as I only have seven days to sort this!!
pimpin gimp said:
You were on the yellow box, suck it up. You're only supposed to enter them if your exit is clear (or about to be) so if you're leaving room for pedestrians and your car is still over the box markings then then your exit wasn't clear and you shouldn't have entered the box.
this, OH got caught out when a car in front stopped unexpectedly leaving her rear wheels in the box.Supposedly she didnt realise the car in front was on tow!
there was enough room for my car behind the van which I pulled in behind of and if I'd pulled upto closer to him I wouldnt have been in the box but this would have blocked pedstrains crossing the road inbetween there 'green' phase, there were people on the island at the time and I knew they would cross inbetween ped phases of the lights hence why I left the room to do so. If I'd blocked there route, which I was entitled to do so, by the time the traffic I was sitting in had moved off the pedestrain phase would turning green giving the peds a clear path.
Fair enough, that if I'm in the wrong so be it I'll pay the fne orginally issued, but was has got my goat is the lack of comms back from TfL and then a £200 fine??
Fair enough, that if I'm in the wrong so be it I'll pay the fne orginally issued, but was has got my goat is the lack of comms back from TfL and then a £200 fine??
Was your exit clear when you entered the YBJ? TfL might have imagery showing you entering the box. This might aid you, or not.
If your exit was clear, then you have better grounds to appeal. That a pedestrian stepped in front of you, forcing you to stop should not change the position.
Streaky
If your exit was clear, then you have better grounds to appeal. That a pedestrian stepped in front of you, forcing you to stop should not change the position.
Streaky
As the bailiffs know your new address they can only have got it from TfL, so it would be reasonable to assume that TfL were able to serve court papers / send you a copy of their findings on you at your new address but failed to do so.
If so tell the bailiffs you are in dispute with TfL and then contact TfL and offer to pay the original fine (sorry levy) direct, this will cut out all the bailiffs fees which presumably make up the bulk of the extra money as it is their (TfL's) negligence that has resulted in the increase.
If so tell the bailiffs you are in dispute with TfL and then contact TfL and offer to pay the original fine (sorry levy) direct, this will cut out all the bailiffs fees which presumably make up the bulk of the extra money as it is their (TfL's) negligence that has resulted in the increase.
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