Thanks for the advice!!!
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I'd like to thank those who offered helpful advice regarding an incident last year where my fiancee was being prosecuted for inadvertently driving without insurance to stop a pissed twat driving 2 miles home, then prosecuted her without her being present due to them sending the notification to the wrong address. It was much appreciated, and we can't thank you enough!
You'll all be delighted to hear the court fell about laughing, have returned the cash, and there is no prosecution.
However...
To those who said "she shouldn't have been driving without insurance, so she's getting what she deserves", up yours. Thank god the court has (in this case) a less jobsworthy approach to an unfortunate situation that caused the best person I know to lose sleep. I truly hope you find yourselves in the same situation, and appreciate the unfairness and wrongness of it all.
Cheers
OJ
You'll all be delighted to hear the court fell about laughing, have returned the cash, and there is no prosecution.
However...
To those who said "she shouldn't have been driving without insurance, so she's getting what she deserves", up yours. Thank god the court has (in this case) a less jobsworthy approach to an unfortunate situation that caused the best person I know to lose sleep. I truly hope you find yourselves in the same situation, and appreciate the unfairness and wrongness of it all.
Cheers
OJ
ojg said:
I'd like to thank those who offered helpful advice regarding an incident last year where my fiancee was being prosecuted for inadvertently driving without insurance to stop a pissed twat driving 2 miles home, then prosecuted her without her being present due to them sending the notification to the wrong address. It was much appreciated, and we can't thank you enough!
You'll all be delighted to hear the court fell about laughing, have returned the cash, and there is no prosecution.
However...
To those who said "she shouldn't have been driving without insurance, so she's getting what she deserves", up yours. Thank god the court has (in this case) a less jobsworthy approach to an unfortunate situation that caused the best person I know to lose sleep. I truly hope you find yourselves in the same situation, and appreciate the unfairness and wrongness of it all.
Cheers
OJ
Result!
So how does it feel to have the one magistrate in a million that shows a modicum of common sense?
woodytvr said:
Anyone got a link to the original story?
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=10&h=0&t=65541
Hmmm, just read the original thread and have views on it, OJG won't want to here them - so close you ears.
I'm supprised she got let off but then in this lefty society we seem to be breeding I'm not entirely supprised.
I can almost forgive the 3rd party oversight based on the the dyslexia (that's a nasty word considering) as insurance policies are often worded in a weird way (read laywerish) but if she is aware of her problem she should have got someone else to check it - I'd certainly of wanted proof before she drove my car, so perhaps you should have checked when she drove yours.
As for the tax shw should have noticed that, I always do a lap around a car before driving it to make sure everything is in order.
I know she didn't do this and I know she wanted to stop him from driving but personally I'd have let him go and called the police. If he's willing to drive when he's at double figures then it ain't the first and certainly won't be the last time he does it - Better to get him banned and hope he has the sence to not drive.
>> Edited by woodytvr on Thursday 30th September 11:34
I'm supprised she got let off but then in this lefty society we seem to be breeding I'm not entirely supprised.
I can almost forgive the 3rd party oversight based on the the dyslexia (that's a nasty word considering) as insurance policies are often worded in a weird way (read laywerish) but if she is aware of her problem she should have got someone else to check it - I'd certainly of wanted proof before she drove my car, so perhaps you should have checked when she drove yours.
As for the tax shw should have noticed that, I always do a lap around a car before driving it to make sure everything is in order.
I know she didn't do this and I know she wanted to stop him from driving but personally I'd have let him go and called the police. If he's willing to drive when he's at double figures then it ain't the first and certainly won't be the last time he does it - Better to get him banned and hope he has the sence to not drive.
>> Edited by woodytvr on Thursday 30th September 11:34
Streetcop said:
I'm pleased that your lady friend 'got off' as nobody was injured and no collision took place..
However, if the circumstances had been different and she had collided with something or someone, then they'd have been up a certain creek without a paddle...
Street
She didn't 'get off' with anything. She was found not guilty. End of story.
I am pleased you had a fair outcome on this, and can understand to some extent how she came to get herself into this pickle, but like woodytvr, have read whole thread - and hope she has learned lesson of reading or getting someone to explain the gobbledegook of insurance-speak and remembering what her policy actually says she is and is not covered for.
As for the acute dyslexia - how does she manage to read direction signs - you know the one which says "Mnashterce dahae lyon!"
(Do not intend offence - but aware it comes across so!)
Why did she not call the call the police when the twazak in question refused taxi? I would have done so - and "grassing" is alien to me! I would only do this if good cause - and drink driving is one of them!
OK - so he may have driven off and wrapped himself around a lamp post - or worse -taken someone else out with him .... but then again - so could she have done with loutish yob of hugest drunk in the car - distracting her whilst she was driving an unfamiliar car.
As for comment on original thread about PC Gatso - well - she would have just been done for speeding as the twazaks in those ticketing centres do not ask for insurance docs - just the identity of driver and his licence reference..... This was done to death on Paulie's site - on his Nonny section! Highlights yet another boo-boo on this daft over-reliance on the pesky things!
21 years old? And child? I was in Moscow at that age on my ownsome - being followed around by big heavy men in raincoats in case I "corrupted" people...
As for the acute dyslexia - how does she manage to read direction signs - you know the one which says "Mnashterce dahae lyon!"
(Do not intend offence - but aware it comes across so!) Why did she not call the call the police when the twazak in question refused taxi? I would have done so - and "grassing" is alien to me! I would only do this if good cause - and drink driving is one of them!
OK - so he may have driven off and wrapped himself around a lamp post - or worse -taken someone else out with him .... but then again - so could she have done with loutish yob of hugest drunk in the car - distracting her whilst she was driving an unfamiliar car.
As for comment on original thread about PC Gatso - well - she would have just been done for speeding as the twazaks in those ticketing centres do not ask for insurance docs - just the identity of driver and his licence reference..... This was done to death on Paulie's site - on his Nonny section! Highlights yet another boo-boo on this daft over-reliance on the pesky things!
21 years old? And child? I was in Moscow at that age on my ownsome - being followed around by big heavy men in raincoats in case I "corrupted" people...
woodytvr said:
Hmmm, just read the original thread and have views on it, OJG won't want to here them - so close you ears.
I'm supprised she got let off but then in this lefty society we seem to be breeding I'm not entirely supprised.
I can almost forgive the 3rd party oversight based on the the dyslexia (that's a nasty word considering) as insurance policies are often worded in a weird way (read laywerish) but if she is aware of her problem she should have got someone else to check it - I'd certainly of wanted proof before she drove my car, so perhaps you should have checked when she drove yours.
As for the tax shw should have noticed that, I always do a lap around a car before driving it to make sure everything is in order.
I know she didn't do this and I know she wanted to stop him from driving but personally I'd have let him go and called the police. If he's willing to drive when he's at double figures then it ain't the first and certainly won't be the last time he does it - Better to get him banned and hope he has the sence to not drive.
>> Edited by woodytvr on Thursday 30th September 11:34
Ah well I am pleased she got let off. Everyone I know who is fully comp is under the impression they can drive any car 3rd party and therefore I am not suprised that she may have thought she was insured.
Also I rarely check the tax disk when I get in a car whether its hire car, courtesy car or what to check the tax disc.
As regards phoning the police I wonder how long it would take them to arrive? Generally my experience is that at chucking out time the police are already stretched dealing with call outs, without chasing after lledged drunk drivers who may have made it home when they get there. Yes tell them he regularly drives pissed, but it must be safer not to let him drive.
chrisgr31 said:
Ah well I am pleased she got let off. Everyone I know who is fully comp is under the impression they can drive any car 3rd party and therefore I am not suprised that she may have thought she was insured.
Moral of story Liebchen - read your policy - und if this is difficult - make your broker explain in proper Englisch. I am glad common sense prevailed as she was only doing what she thought was a caring and considerate course of action..... but she should stil have checked - und in this day and age - you need to weigh up the long term effects of good deed. If this is recidivist drink driver with no common sense - then perhaps a sharp shock of ban would have brought him to senses. Sometimes - you have to be cruel to be kind.....
chrisgr31 said:
Also I rarely check the tax disk when I get in a car whether its hire car, courtesy car or what to check the tax disc.
Liebchen - you should!
Do you not know that you get done if tyres are balding, under pressure, if no wash in windscreen, if wiper blades are defective, if there is dangerous part anywhere?
You are blokey behind wheel - King of the Car! You are in charge! Your word is law as far as passengers are concerned! You are responsible for your safety and those in your vehicle and those sharing road with you!
You check car und play merry hell with garage, hirer or whoever owns it, if it has any dangerous defect und you refuse to accept it - und insist they provide you with road worthy car as you are paying them for privilege of using it - und they have duty of care und obligation to provide service .....
Apart from that - I value my licence as I value my life!
chrisgr31 said:
As regards phoning the police I wonder how long it would take them to arrive? Generally my experience is that at chucking out time the police are already stretched dealing with call outs, without chasing after lledged drunk drivers who may have made it home when they get there. Yes tell them he regularly drives pissed, but it must be safer not to let him drive.
True - but despite his size - I would still have called a cab and told him he either uses it or I dial 999. Und I would have made sure that he knew I meant it as well!
I'm with Wildcat on this one.
Most insurers don't allow 3rd party when under 25 - I'll bet she's with Privilage - so why assume you have it.
As for not checking out a hire/loan car you must be mad and have no repsect for your own life or anyone elses. I'd never trust the half baked idiots at these places to have it correctly taxed and as for the condition of tyres, put it this way I know how I drive hire cars so I always check.
Most insurers don't allow 3rd party when under 25 - I'll bet she's with Privilage - so why assume you have it.
As for not checking out a hire/loan car you must be mad and have no repsect for your own life or anyone elses. I'd never trust the half baked idiots at these places to have it correctly taxed and as for the condition of tyres, put it this way I know how I drive hire cars so I always check.
ca092003 said:
I'm pleased that your lady friend 'got off' as nobody was injured and no collision took place..
However, if the circumstances had been different and she had collided with something or someone, then they'd have been up a certain creek without a paddle...
Street
She didn't 'get off' with anything. She was found not guilty. End of story.
She did 'get off'...she had no insurance at the time of using a motorcar on a public road. Absolute offence...The magistrates decided not to deal with the matter...and in the circumstances I'm pleased for the lady. However, make no mistake..she did 'Get Off'...
I've known people be stopped by BiB and HORT/1'd to later find their insurance had ran out the day before and still got prosecuted.
Street
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