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Power corrupts.
Plodbraid will cite 'operational reasons' of one form or another, and at times this is valid. At other times they park in disabled spots to buy chips, block pavements, use blues and twos to get through jams etc etc just because they can. Nothing to be done, stay cool, accept it. We should remember that those doing it for a valid reason are sound and secure in their position of trust. The rest are deplorable gobshites with no sense of responsibility who lack a single iota of thought or care for the public they are meant to serve and who would be above their station shovelling poo from one pile to another - not disgracing the warrant they carry.
But like I said let's stay cool & not get bothered
>> Edited by turbobloke on Saturday 2nd October 18:26
Plodbraid will cite 'operational reasons' of one form or another, and at times this is valid. At other times they park in disabled spots to buy chips, block pavements, use blues and twos to get through jams etc etc just because they can. Nothing to be done, stay cool, accept it. We should remember that those doing it for a valid reason are sound and secure in their position of trust. The rest are deplorable gobshites with no sense of responsibility who lack a single iota of thought or care for the public they are meant to serve and who would be above their station shovelling poo from one pile to another - not disgracing the warrant they carry.
But like I said let's stay cool & not get bothered
>> Edited by turbobloke on Saturday 2nd October 18:26
gh0st said:Good luck to you on your perks, but the question of your civil liberty and ability to enjoy those perks could be at risk if one of these less-than-100%-integrity BiB gets on your case. Plod say if someone breaks one law won't they be more likely to break another, I don't necessarily agree but their comment works both ways. A BiB who abuses their position in one way is likely to abuse it in another. [Shaw Taylor]Keep Em Peeled[/Shaw Taylor]
Perk of the job I suppose. I get free computer equipment and access to things more people will never know exist as part of my job... not gonna complain if they use their job to their advantage.
>> Edited by turbobloke on Saturday 2nd October 19:16
turbobloke said:
Power corrupts.
Plodbraid will cite 'operational reasons' of one form or another, and at times this is valid. At other times they park in disabled spots to buy chips, block pavements, use blues and twos to get through jams etc etc just because they can. Nothing to be done, stay cool, accept it. We should remember that those doing it for a valid reason are sound and secure in their position of trust. The rest are deplorable gobshites with no sense of responsibility who lack a single iota of thought or care for the public they are meant to serve and who would be above their station shovelling poo from one pile to another - not disgracing the warrant they carry.
But like I said let's stay cool & not get bothered
>> Edited by turbobloke on Saturday 2nd October 18:26
Top post there Turbobloke!
Streetcop said:
20M Unnecessary Obstruction
Ticket wherever possible....
Dangerous to lots of people....blind and disabled being the obvious choice...
Street
Interesting but I was given my information from a traffic warden so there's clearly a difference of opinion? It seems to be that if obstruction isn't seen happening then an offence hasn't taken place and a ticket can't be issued.
Quinny said:
Of course they are
They can do whatever thay like, they're the police
Actually that is not quite true. Streetcop is currently checking with his legal friends that his assertion that vehicles that are being used for police purposes can cross a solid white line, is true. I can find no reference for this exemption.
There are certain rules that everyone has to follow. If it really bothers yuo, do some digging and try to find the exemption.
Could be interesting this.
Reg 26 Traffic Signs and General Directions 2002 makes in an offence to cross a DWL - continuous at your side.
However it does contain certain actions which will not be considered an offence. Nowhere does it state an all encompassing exemption in relation to emergency service vehicles, i.e. police, fire, ambulance.
DWL is a Traffic sign and as such a breach requires a NOIP and the offence of failing to comply with a Traffic Sign is at Section 36 RTA 88. Again at this section no mention of exemption for ESV"s.
In relation to Red at Traffic Lights in the TSGN section that deals with the significance of the lights it does contain an exemption for ESV"s
I seem to recall last year time there was an amendment to Reg 26 TSGN that permitted something else to cross DWL lawfully but don't recollect ESV"s being added. Cannot at the moment find the amending SI. SC will have access to all the latest legilslation so I hope he proves this wrong.
As to parking on yellow lines etc, then these are brought it by Order which nine times out of ten exempts ESV"s.
DVD
Reg 26 Traffic Signs and General Directions 2002 makes in an offence to cross a DWL - continuous at your side.
However it does contain certain actions which will not be considered an offence. Nowhere does it state an all encompassing exemption in relation to emergency service vehicles, i.e. police, fire, ambulance.
DWL is a Traffic sign and as such a breach requires a NOIP and the offence of failing to comply with a Traffic Sign is at Section 36 RTA 88. Again at this section no mention of exemption for ESV"s.
In relation to Red at Traffic Lights in the TSGN section that deals with the significance of the lights it does contain an exemption for ESV"s
I seem to recall last year time there was an amendment to Reg 26 TSGN that permitted something else to cross DWL lawfully but don't recollect ESV"s being added. Cannot at the moment find the amending SI. SC will have access to all the latest legilslation so I hope he proves this wrong.
As to parking on yellow lines etc, then these are brought it by Order which nine times out of ten exempts ESV"s.
DVD
Streetcop said:
The BiB were no doubt there to prevent trouble or deal with it accordingly...
If they park in a 'pay and display' car park around the corner...there's a chance that they wont be able to respond quickly enough...
Street
Fair comment and I agree wholeheartedly. However.....In order to stop alienating the ill informed , why dont the council simply mark a couple of bays as "Police Vehicles Only". There are two ofthese in Brighton in locations where the fun normally kicks off on a Friday/Saturday.
Streetcop also said:
Dangerous to lots of people....blind and disabled being the obvious choice...
Need I comment?
Steve
Boosted Ls1 said:
As far as I know parking on the pavement isn't an offence although it is a bit cheeky. It is an offence if a warden sees the vehicle obstructing a pedestrian but he has to witness the offence taking place. If there's plenty of room there won't be any obstruction.
DVD is this true?
I always thought it was 3 points and a fine for even a couple of wheels on the pavement regardless of the the width of it.
yet again I have to wonder why this thread was ever started.....I assume someone is going to feel better about themselves if they find out that they could 'have a go' at the police for doing something like this? Or do you think you'll start some impressive landmark case, get police banned from parking town centres on Friday and Sat nights, and then be picking up their teeth sometime later and wonder where the cops were?
I know there will be lots of replies along the lines of "well the bloody police shouldnt tell us one thing and do another...its so unfair...bloody stazie etc...."
but for gods sake do me a favour and give it a rest.
This sort of bollocks is spoiling some of the interest in pistonheads for me.
I know there will be lots of replies along the lines of "well the bloody police shouldnt tell us one thing and do another...its so unfair...bloody stazie etc...."
but for gods sake do me a favour and give it a rest.
This sort of bollocks is spoiling some of the interest in pistonheads for me.
Nightmare said:
yet again I have to wonder why this thread was ever started.....I assume someone is going to feel better about themselves if they find out that they could 'have a go' at the police for doing something like this? Or do you think you'll start some impressive landmark case, get police banned from parking town centres on Friday and Sat nights, and then be picking up their teeth sometime later and wonder where the cops were?
I know there will be lots of replies along the lines of "well the bloody police shouldnt tell us one thing and do another...its so unfair...bloody stazie etc...."
but for gods sake do me a favour and give it a rest.
This sort of bollocks is spoiling some of the interest in pistonheads for me.
Night time town centre? High visible police presence? parked conveniently on pavements so that the drunk and disorderlies can conveniently stagger into them and get B&B courtesy of old Street
? Not got problem with that!
Have problem if they park willy nilly on pavement for no reason - or if they park in a disabled bay at a supermarket and shove trolleys violently at innocent pregnant women as they waddle past in fit of pique because store manager put him in his place.....
Have problem if they show no consideration to other road users and abuse their position of authority.
But do not have a problem if their reason for dodgy parking is obviously in line with their duty.
Mad Moggie said:
Have problem if they park willy nilly on pavement for no reason - or if they park in a disabled bay at a supermarket and shove trolleys violently at innocent pregnant women as they waddle past in fit of pique because store manager put him in his place.....
Have problem if they show no consideration to other road users and abuse their position of authority.
absolutely...but this definitely wasn't what this was about...and I hope (certainly never seEn one myself) that the case(s) you mention are seriously in the minority
As an aside...if I had to rate a percentage of coppers who were fine over those who were tw@ts that I've met (and its lots), I reckon Id say 85% were great. If I did the same with 'people who own performance cars' - then Id say over half were wazzocks.....funny old world!
I got a warning note from the BiB for having a wheel up on the kerb (idiot next to me unable to park between the white lines!). It said i was obstructing the pavement and my reg number had been taken. If I reoffended i'd be ticketed. And no it wasn't a traffic warden it had Derbyshire constabulary written on it. Another clever use of police resources!
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