Parking fine for misspelt numberplate
Parking fine for misspelt numberplate
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Engineerino

Original Poster:

281 posts

191 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Earlier on today I received a parking fine in a pay and display carpark.

The car was inside the lines, and the pay and display sticker was paid for, and subsequently placed in the windscreen - however I managed to type in my numberplate incorrectly on the machine by adding an extra letter.

Despite it clearly being my ticket with an added L to the registration, I was fined for 'parked in a car park without clearly displaying a valid pay and display ticket'.

Where do I stand legally with this? I find it ridiculous that they can remove £60 from your pocket for such a minor error.

Thanks

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Was it a Local Authority Car Park? You can appeal and eventually take it to PATAS, if so... Instructions on the back of the ticket.

If NOT a Local Authority car park, who issued the 'ticket'?


Getragdogleg

9,998 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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I would hope that if you appeal you would be let off but I suspect you will be in for along battle.

Oh, and get ready for some posters to come and say it is your fault and take it on the chin, ignore them though, they will be bellends.

Pontoneer

3,643 posts

212 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Was this a council issued penalty charge notice , or a privately issued parking charge notice ?

At most you may have marginally infringed some terms and conditions , but given that you have paid for the parking space you occupied and inconvenienced no one I'd venture there is no case to answer .

Keep your ticket in case any more comes of it .

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

183 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Getragdogleg said:
I would hope that if you appeal you would be let off but I suspect you will be in for along battle.

Oh, and get ready for some posters to come and say it is your fault and take it on the chin, ignore them though, they will be bellends.
But... but... he spelt something wrong!! wink

ging84

9,548 posts

172 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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problem with a lot of the appeals processes they do not allow you to contest the fairness of the ticket. So an appeal would likely fail because the ticket is valid as far as the parking company's terms are concerned.
I am put off using these machines as i know i could very easily make an error and not notice and have no grounds for appeal, so i tend to go and park else where

Deva Link

26,934 posts

271 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Engineerino said:
Despite it clearly being my ticket with an added L to the registration, I was fined for 'parked in a car park without clearly displaying a valid pay and display ticket'.
You can't really blame the person who issued the ticket as they're probably bonused on tickets issued, but a system which allows this to happen is just ridiculous.

Jagmanv12

1,573 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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In this thread http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... the number being wrong is not grounds to invalidate the ticket. Therefore the same should follow in this thread.


Getragdogleg

9,998 posts

209 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Tell them you are dyslexic and this is causing you distress and you feel it is against your human rights to have to be letter perfect for a ticket.

Tell them you feel so strongly about it that if they don't immediately drop the case you will be seeking damages for the stress this whole thing has put you under.

Engineerino

Original Poster:

281 posts

191 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Thankyou very much for the comments.

The fine was for my housemate who isn't very clued up on legal matters, so I have passed this on to him. I'm sure people will claim that it's my ticket really, but my car needs a new transmission control module and personally would rather take the ticket than a new one of those. frown

stemll

5,332 posts

226 months

Wednesday 8th May 2013
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Jagmanv12 said:
In this thread http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... the number being wrong is not grounds to invalidate the ticket. Therefore the same should follow in this thread.
OP doesn't mean the reg is wrong on the parking charge notice (I'm guessing it's private not council), he means on the pay and display ticket he bought and displayed. Guessing it's the same as the NCP pay and display bit near me and you need to put the end of your registration into the machine when you buy the ticket.

Hence, very different to the linked thread.

Jagmanv12

1,573 posts

190 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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stemll said:
Jagmanv12 said:
In this thread http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... the number being wrong is not grounds to invalidate the ticket. Therefore the same should follow in this thread.
OP doesn't mean the reg is wrong on the parking charge notice (I'm guessing it's private not council), he means on the pay and display ticket he bought and displayed. Guessing it's the same as the NCP pay and display bit near me and you need to put the end of your registration into the machine when you buy the ticket.

Hence, very different to the linked thread.
What I was pointing out was that just because one letter/number was wrong on one document (the penalty parking ticket) it did not invalidate it. Therefore it should follow that just because one letter/number was wrong on another document (the pay and display ticket) then that should not invalidate it either.

Grenoble

58,492 posts

181 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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If you added an extra letter... e.g.

A123XYZ
became
A123XYZL

Then the ticket was correct, only the car bearing that ticket could possibly have held that plate, there was no intention to deprive them of revenue and they are a bunch of idiots.

Appeal.

n.b. IANAL.

Jobbo

13,666 posts

290 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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Since correcting typos is perfectly permissible and in no way invalidates an NIP, for instance, the same must hold true for parking tickets.

There's a pay and display I use which allows you to type in your whole registration number, which I do, but I re-read the instructions and you're only supposed to type the numerals. Should I have been issued a ticket for failing to display correctly...?

PaulMoor

3,209 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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I would say you may not have stuck to the letter of the contract (which is what paying for parking is) but you did stick to the spirit of it. It's someone being a bit of a jobsworth. Put in an appeal and the ticket will probably be dropped instantly, like people who put tickets in upsidedown or in the wrong place.

If it went as far as court (Which I can't see that it would) it would be thrown out instantly.

fatboy b

9,665 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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So is it a council ticket, or a private parking co? If the latter, then there's no arguement. Just ignore it.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

214 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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GrumpyTwig said:
Getragdogleg said:
I would hope that if you appeal you would be let off but I suspect you will be in for along battle.

Oh, and get ready for some posters to come and say it is your fault and take it on the chin, ignore them though, they will be bellends.
But... but... he spelt something wrong!! wink
Which is surely the worst crime of all on PH. That and poor grammar...biggrin

stemll

5,332 posts

226 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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Jagmanv12 said:
What I was pointing out was that just because one letter/number was wrong on one document (the penalty parking ticket) it did not invalidate it. Therefore it should follow that just because one letter/number was wrong on another document (the pay and display ticket) then that should not invalidate it either.
Ah. As you were then smile

normal bloke

166 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th May 2013
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My mum was hassled by Civil Enforcement Ltd and she nearly ended up paying until I took control. The machine misprinted her Reg number and it took four letters from me before they let go. Stand your ground and don't be intimidated. I know not all situations are the same but if you beleive you genuinely have a grievance and you are honest with yourself, then you're probably in the right but I always pay up if I'm banged to rights.
They can't afford to take everyone to Court.

Beartato

637 posts

194 months

Friday 10th May 2013
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Jagmanv12 said:
stemll said:
Jagmanv12 said:
In this thread http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... the number being wrong is not grounds to invalidate the ticket. Therefore the same should follow in this thread.
OP doesn't mean the reg is wrong on the parking charge notice (I'm guessing it's private not council), he means on the pay and display ticket he bought and displayed. Guessing it's the same as the NCP pay and display bit near me and you need to put the end of your registration into the machine when you buy the ticket.

Hence, very different to the linked thread.
What I was pointing out was that just because one letter/number was wrong on one document (the penalty parking ticket) it did not invalidate it. Therefore it should follow that just because one letter/number was wrong on another document (the pay and display ticket) then that should not invalidate it either.
I don't understand how you came to that conclusion from reading that thread. There, a warden made a typo when checking reg number and the computer said no. I would imagine the appeal will be successful.

Here, the OP made a small typo. It really depends how much of an arse the parking company wants to be as he is technically in the wrong, and given that they're a parking company I would expect them to be an absolute arse about the whole thing. You need to hope you come across someone with a conscience in your dealings with them (chances are slim).