Victim–less crimes
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gopher

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5,160 posts

282 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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I am personally only aware of one, but I am aware that with our history there must be a number, so aside from exciding a posted speed limit, what other victimless crime are you aware off and how is it enforced?

hedders

24,460 posts

270 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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Growing dope plants.

Punishment = Jail.

Oh, how is it ENFORCED? Don't know...

>> Edited by hedders on Tuesday 5th October 22:36

gone

6,649 posts

286 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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hedders said:
Growing dope plants.

Punishment = Jail.

Oh, how is it ENFORCED? Don't know...

>> Edited by hedders on Tuesday 5th October 22:36


But this activity does have victims. Particularly parents of young adolescents who get hooked on the stuff and who's behaviour becomes irrational/paranoid and their prospects at school become a downward spiral.

I have personal experience of this at the moment.
I will personally skin dope growers alive when I find them! Metaphorically of course

nonegreen

7,803 posts

293 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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Erm not practising your archery on a Sunday (no longer enforced)

Hating Tony Blair (oops sorry that is not illegal until nest week)

Oh yeah, Shagging the Prince of Wales wife is treason and punishable by death, however James Hewitt is still around.

Supporting a republic is still treason and the editor of "the sandalist" is on record as a supporter yet he is not in the tower.

hedders

24,460 posts

270 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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gone said:

hedders said:
Growing dope plants.

Punishment = Jail.

Oh, how is it ENFORCED? Don't know...

>> Edited by hedders on Tuesday 5th October 22:36



But this activity does have victims. Particularly parents of young adolescents who get hooked on the stuff and who's behaviour becomes irrational/paranoid and their prospects at school become a downward spiral.

I have personal experience of this at the moment.
I will personally skin dope growers alive when I find them! Metaphorically of course


I didn't say ANYTHING about supplying children with Drugs did I?

I didn't think i would have to explain what i meant...If an adult grows a dope plant for his/her own use, i see THAT as a victimless crime.....



deeen

6,289 posts

268 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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Using a laser jammer.

Warning ppl of speed traps.

hedders

24,460 posts

270 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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Overstaying by a few minutes in a parking space.

Having sex with a £50,000 a night hooker?

how about ...walking about in public stark naked?


cb-dave

1,002 posts

283 months

Tuesday 5th October 2004
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burgling a house at christmas, then selling the haul to buy a key of coke, which gets cut down and sold for a million 'E's, which get punted out to people in the local chav-haven for £5 per pop, which funds the local Al-Qu'eda cell to plan to blow up the houses of parliament...

(well of course it's victimless, it will go unreported!)



Does anyone do tongue removal operations? mine is firmly stuck in my cheek!

Pigeon

18,535 posts

269 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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gopher said:
I am personally only aware of one, but I am aware that with our history there must be a number, so aside from exciding a posted speed limit, what other victimless crime are you aware off and how is it enforced?

Surely all motoring offences, not just speeding, are victimless when there is no prang?

wiggy001

7,038 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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I asked this question a while back in a thread and the only two crimes (excluding the old ones no longer enforced) that people could agree were always victimless were speeding and possession of drugs.

Obviously some others can sometimes be victimless (eg dangerous driving if there is no actual incident/accident on a deserted motorway).

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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nonegreen said:
Oh yeah, Shagging the Prince of Wales wife is treason and punishable by death, however James Hewitt is still around.



I see the other swarthy bloke isn't....

Which reminds me..

"The Dodo died,
Dodi died,
Di died
and Dando died..

I bet Dido is shitting herself"




Street

>> Edited by Streetcop on Wednesday 6th October 09:36

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

307 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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wiggy001 said:

Obviously some others can sometimes be victimless (eg dangerous driving if there is no actual incident/accident on a deserted motorway).


I don't consider dangerous driving to be a 'victimless' crime because they are putting other people at risk either of being directly involved in a collision, or indirectly of having to pay to clean up the mess afterwards.

I would consider breaching the law on a techicality to be a victimless crime if it didn't affect anyone else. For example, exceeding a speed limit when it is safe to do so, does no harm to anyone as far as I can see. I would consider that to be a victimless crime. (Other people may not always agree with my view of what is 'safe', so there is an element of concensus here.)

wiggy001

7,038 posts

294 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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GreenV8S said:

I don't consider dangerous driving to be a 'victimless' crime


GreenV8S then said:

For example, exceeding a speed limit when it is safe to do so, does no harm to anyone as far as I can see. I would consider that to be a victimless crime.


But exceeding the speed limit can easily become Dangerous Driving, and that was my point.

stooz

3,005 posts

307 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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hedders said:

gone said:


hedders said:
Growing dope plants.

Punishment = Jail.

Oh, how is it ENFORCED? Don't know...

>> Edited by hedders on Tuesday 5th October 22:36




But this activity does have victims. Particularly parents of young adolescents who get hooked on the stuff and who's behaviour becomes irrational/paranoid and their prospects at school become a downward spiral.

I have personal experience of this at the moment.
I will personally skin dope growers alive when I find them! Metaphorically of course



I didn't say ANYTHING about supplying children with Drugs did I?

I didn't think i would have to explain what i meant...If an adult grows a dope plant for his/her own use, i see THAT as a victimless crime.....





gone; I understand your sentiment, but thats like sueing ford for making a car that goes over 70mph and gets you a speeding ticket.

deeen

6,289 posts

268 months

Wednesday 6th October 2004
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2 more: failing to sign a NIP and failing to return one