BiB using a laser gun on Motorway Bridge
Discussion
If the BiB is outside his car with his laser toy and snapping motorists what happens if he spots a speeder. Is he going to jump in the car and chase them down or are they photographed like the scamera vans? If photograph how is this taken - presumbly same extra kit needs to be bolted onto the laser camera? If so guessing weight and size will necessate a tripod rather than hand held? If using camera / video I believe max range is around 400m - anyone want to confirm? Any one point to a picture on the web with the distance count >400m? If using camera guess trigger speeds will be APCO ie 80+ but if chasing down presumbly trigger speed is higher otherwise you might as was well just pick a car at random and save getting out the car - if so what sort of trigger speed?
Streetcop said:
Stopped a driver today....94 mph on a motorway....wanted a 'warning/telling off', but 94mph in lunchhour traffic on a busy motorway is too fast..IMO...
Street
You guys seem to police the motorways a lot (going on the recent posts) for speeding.
Out of interest, how many speeders do you stop in the lower limits, compared to the 'easy' stops from bridges over the motorway?
Was the motorway in question an accident blackspot, or just a random traffic stop?
People are always telling me that motorways are the safest of our roads you see, so why are there more posts about stopping speeders on motorways than there are about stopping speeders in 30 zones??
Just wondering....
hiya r32...
The motorway isn't a particularly dangerous one, but does see it's fair share of bumps...
Out of todays speeders...We followed one, who between two point was averaging 93mph....We followed him for 2.1miles before activating lights/sirens....only then did he look in his mirror...
In addition, his braking distances were also questionable on occasions...
If he'd been doing under 90 and had 'toned it down' upon seeing us, we would have passed him and carried on..
Street
The motorway isn't a particularly dangerous one, but does see it's fair share of bumps...
Out of todays speeders...We followed one, who between two point was averaging 93mph....We followed him for 2.1miles before activating lights/sirens....only then did he look in his mirror...
In addition, his braking distances were also questionable on occasions...
If he'd been doing under 90 and had 'toned it down' upon seeing us, we would have passed him and carried on..
Street
Streetcop said:
hiya r32...
The motorway isn't a particularly dangerous one, but does see it's fair share of bumps...
Out of todays speeders...We followed one, who between two point was averaging 93mph....We followed him for 2.1miles before activating lights/sirens....only then did he look in his mirror...
In addition, his braking distances were also questionable on occasions...
If he'd been doing under 90 and had 'toned it down' upon seeing us, we would have passed him and carried on..
Street
Now thats the sort of fair policing that i like
Always thought that if i got stopped by a marked car that had been behind me for a while and i'd not seen them, then i deserved all i got.
Streetcop said:
hiya r32...
The motorway isn't a particularly dangerous one, but does see it's fair share of bumps...
Out of todays speeders...We followed one, who between two point was averaging 93mph....We followed him for 2.1miles before activating lights/sirens....only then did he look in his mirror...
In addition, his braking distances were also questionable on occasions...
If he'd been doing under 90 and had 'toned it down' upon seeing us, we would have passed him and carried on..
Street
You must despair. I suppose we must count ourselves fortunate that he was looking out the front, let alone out the back.
These people are just *!*!*!* ; tonk up the outside lane at 95ish, honk everyone else out of the way etc etc, see it all the time
Mixed views on this, on one hand if things go wrong on the motorway it gets very messy very quickly. On the other hand I would have thought the best policy would be for big, marked cars to be mixing up with the traffic therefore increasing driver contact time with a marked vehicle rather than sitting up a slip road. The slip road sitter may hit one driver every x minutes but the mark car will be seen and hopefully modify dangerous to safer behaviour. But it won't generate as many tickets.
But there again I will admit I'm not a traffic copper. Has there been any research done? Whats force policy or individual experience of this?
But there again I will admit I'm not a traffic copper. Has there been any research done? Whats force policy or individual experience of this?
Streetcop said:
hiya r32...
The motorway isn't a particularly dangerous one, but does see it's fair share of bumps...
Out of todays speeders...We followed one, who between two point was averaging 93mph....We followed him for 2.1miles before activating lights/sirens....only then did he look in his mirror...
In addition, his braking distances were also questionable on occasions...
If he'd been doing under 90 and had 'toned it down' upon seeing us, we would have passed him and carried on..
Street
Hi Streetcop
Like I said in a previous post, 2.1m at an average of 93mph without paying attention to what's behind him. It's not speeding he should be done for, it's DWDCaA.
That's only the opinion of a small furry rodent of course!!
KS
Hamster said:
Hi Streetcop
Like I said in a previous post, 2.1m at an average of 93mph without paying attention to what's behind him. It's not speeding he should be done for, it's DWDCaA.
That's only the opinion of a small furry rodent of course!!
KS
Hiya Hamster...
Unfortunately, it's not DWDCaA....as it doesn't fit the offence unfortunately....(having said that, his braking distances at times was a bit questionable, but the fact that he's not seen a police vehicle behind him, doesn't fit the criterea.)
Besides, 3 points and £60 is adequate in the circumstances. IMO
Street
cptsideways said:
If your doing those sort of speeds & you have'nt seen a jam sandwich behind you (or even an unmarked) then fair cop.
Would you be more lenient if eagle eyes here spotted you in an unmrarked car?
Anything that makes me think the driver is 'switched on' and not just a 'foot down and hope for the best' merchant...goes in his/her favour..
Sat on a twisting dual carraigeway 40mph limit.(KSI site) yesterday.....I'm side on to the road in a Volvo V70 with battenburg marking...car comes hurtling up towards us....breaks at the last minute and the pro-laser still had him at 53mph.....No sympathy really...especially when his licence was only 12 months old...
Street
Streetcop said:
If your doing those sort of speeds & you have'nt seen a jam sandwich behind you (or even an unmarked) then fair cop.
Would you be more lenient if eagle eyes here spotted you in an unmrarked car?
Anything that makes me think the driver is 'switched on' and not just a 'foot down and hope for the best' merchant...goes in his/her favour..
There you are you see. I knew Gary & Co. would be far superior to those damned cameras!
streetcop said:
Sat on a twisting dual carraigeway 40mph limit.(KSI site) yesterday.....I'm side on to the road in a Volvo V70 with battenburg marking...car comes hurtling up towards us....breaks at the last minute and the pro-laser still had him at 53mph.....No sympathy really...especially when his licence was only 12 months old...
Street
Well hopefully he'll calm down a bit before some real harm results, but I guess that was a bit of youthful exuberance.
Anyhow today is the 45th anniversary of our first date, so we're off for what I hope will be a pleasant tootle out for the day.
Have a nice day Gary, and everyone,.
Dave.
pmanson said:
I have heard of a case with a laser operated at around 600 metres, I believe they are supposed to be accurate to about 3000 metres (supposed being the operative word!).
hey got my dad from 1/2 mile away on the M4
I know the laser is good for 1000 metres + but is that photo evidence with NIP in the post.
I've yet see camera evidence taken at a range greater than 400m
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