DVLA, SORN, CoD, ATF, and the law

DVLA, SORN, CoD, ATF, and the law

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Crafty1980

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114 posts

224 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Does anyone have any knowledge of scrapping a vehicle that they have dismantled themselves?

In a nutshell, I've got an old 1989 Range Rover which was basically beyond repair so I stripped it for parts which I then sold on eBay.
The last part (Engine & Drivetrain) has just been sold and the guy didn't want the VIN or V5 paperwork for it...

So I'm now left with a small box of bits, a vin plate, a reg plate, a V5 document and a SORN document.

I really don't want to have to keep on declaring a box of bits in the shed as SORN for the rest of my days, so is it even possible to get a some sort of official Certificate of Destruction (CoD) from a garage without them seeing the car?! (I've got photos of the dismantling process to be fair which might help?!?)

Has anyone been through this before? Any advice?

Thanks. Ben

Finlandia

7,803 posts

244 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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If all else fails, export it and all worries are gone.

Brigand

2,547 posts

182 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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You might be able to take it to a normal scrap yard and show them the VIN, documents and any other parts you have and get it scrapped; after all when it comes to officially scrapping a car its the VIN and the documentation that are the important parts from a legal point of view I'd have thought - just speculation mind.

timbo999

1,407 posts

268 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Seems quite clear on the .gov website:

If you’ve broken up the vehicle yourself
If you’ve broken up the vehicle yourself you must make a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) or continue to tax the vehicle.

You’ll have to make a SORN every year until you’ve taken it to an ATF or told DVLA you no longer have it.

Tell DVLA by completing section 3 of your V5C vehicle registration certificate (the ‘Notification of sale or transfer’ section), or write a letter to DVLA using the address below, explaining that you no longer have the vehicle.


Red Devil

13,249 posts

221 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Crafty1980 said:
In a nutshell, I've got an old 1989 Range Rover which was basically beyond repair so I stripped it for parts which I then sold on eBay.
The last part (Engine & Drivetrain) has just been sold and the guy didn't want the VIN or V5 paperwork for it...
1989 is first generation with the ladder chassis. That's what the VIN relates to, not the body panels. So do you still have it? If so, weigh it in at an ATF and send off the completed and signed V5C/3 to DVLA. If not, what happened to it?


Pontoneer

3,643 posts

199 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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I have done this in the past , just filled in the box declaring that the vehicle has been scrapped ( I broke it up myself ) and heard nothing further . Last time was about a year ago . I never had a COD and never had any problems .

Utterpiffle

831 posts

193 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Pontoneer said:
I have done this in the past , just filled in the box declaring that the vehicle has been scrapped ( I broke it up myself ) and heard nothing further . Last time was about a year ago . I never had a COD and never had any problems .
That box no longer exists on a v5, hence the OP's enquiry.

You could just write to the DVLA stating that a nice Lithuanian man bought the car for export. A letter then comes back saying that you are no longer the registered keeper.


Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

257 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Why not write to DVLA explaining destruction and send V5 under ther lawe as at Reg 17
Road Vehicles(Reg & Lic) regs 2002

Notification of destruction or permanent export of a vehicle

17. Where a vehicle is destroyed or sent permanently out of—

(a)Great Britain; or.

(b)Northern Ireland,.

the registered keeper shall immediately notify the Secretary of State of the fact and, at the same time, surrender the registration document to him.

Simples?

dvd

M4cruiser

4,351 posts

163 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Crafty1980 said:
So I'm now left with a small box of bits, a vin plate, a reg plate, a V5 document and a SORN document.

Thanks. Ben
Sell this box of bits (with VIN plate and reg plate) on EBay (for 99p), then fill in the V5 declaring it as a sold vehicle.

Crafty1980

Original Poster:

114 posts

224 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Red Devil said:
1989 is first generation with the ladder chassis. That's what the VIN relates to, not the body panels. So do you still have it? If so, weigh it in at an ATF and send off the completed and signed V5C/3 to DVLA. If not, what happened to it?
I cut it up into small manageable parts and took it all to the scrap yard. I kept the vin at the time because I was planning on putting all the other parts into a kit car but it never happened.

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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M4cruiser said:
Sell this box of bits (with VIN plate and reg plate) on EBay (for 99p), then fill in the V5 declaring it as a sold vehicle.
Good luck with that. Take the VIN plate and V5 to your local scrap yard, with proof of identification and ask them to issue a certificate of destruction. Destroy the VIN plate (metal scissors should do the trick) and leave the log boog for them to send away with the rest at the end of the week.


shakotan

10,807 posts

209 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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M4cruiser said:
Crafty1980 said:
So I'm now left with a small box of bits, a vin plate, a reg plate, a V5 document and a SORN document.

Thanks. Ben
Sell this box of bits (with VIN plate and reg plate) on EBay (for 99p), then fill in the V5 declaring it as a sold vehicle.
Dick

M4cruiser

4,351 posts

163 months

Thursday 13th June 2013
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shakotan said:
Dick
No sense of humour. . .

shakotan

10,807 posts

209 months

Friday 14th June 2013
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M4cruiser said:
No sense of humour. . .
No indication of humorous post.

Cooperman

4,428 posts

263 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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Just send in the V5 declaring it 'permanently exported'. That's the end of it then.

Pontoneer

3,643 posts

199 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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Cooperman said:
Just send in the V5 declaring it 'permanently exported'. That's the end of it then.
I suppose if you were to send the remaining box of bits abroad , it would be smile

onomatopoeia

3,509 posts

230 months

Monday 17th June 2013
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Crafty1980 said:
Does anyone have any knowledge of scrapping a vehicle that they have dismantled themselves?
I've done this a few times (Imps tend to rust and I take everything off before cutting the shell up with the big angle grinder). The last time it was on one of the new V5C documents with no "scrapped" tick box, so I took the form to the Bristol DVLA office, told the chap behind the counter and he took the form and wroted "SCRAPPED" across the back in big letters and told me he'd send it to Swansea for me.

A few weeks later I got the letter saying I was no longer responsible etc.