Windscreen furniture?
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cmsapms

Original Poster:

708 posts

267 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Apart from a tax disc holder, what is the law on other windscreen stickers?

If one had a private car parking permit in the windscreen, would one technically be breaking the law, and if so, which law?

Cheers

Paul

kurgis

166 posts

266 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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The relevant regulation is the Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986. I for the life of me can't find the exact bit.

Highway Code, page 89:

Windscreens and windows MUST be kept clean and free from obstructions to vision.

At the end of the bullet points it then states that the CUR (the piece of law i've noted above) and RVLR regs 23 & 27 are relevant - to that bit or some other part of the maintenance section of the Highway code i'm not 100%

Will Power

137 posts

257 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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I'm not certain that it is a legal requirement to display your tax disc in the front window, you can lay it on the dash. Perhaps it's OK to stick in the side or rear window?

canam

13,010 posts

295 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Don't quote me on this, but I think the requirement for cars is that the tax disc has to be displayed in the bottom right hand corner of the windscreen.

cmsapms

Original Poster:

708 posts

267 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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The reason for the question is that the jobsworth security bloke at work got stroppy when I told him I didn't have a windscreen to stick my parking permit in (Westfield with aeroscreen - and getting er). He said the regulations state that it has to be displayed in the windscreen and I could be clamped for contravening his petty regulations.

I'm hoping that legally speaking his regulations are instructing employees to do something that could get them prosecuted. Obviously it's highly unlikely anyone would get a tug for another tax disc sized sticker in the windscreen, but I'd love to point out that he's been a jackass......again

So, is it illegal to stick anything bar the tax disc in the windscreen?

Paul


NB, this same security donkey has introduced new parking permits that have a barcode. He's spent a fortune on barcode readers, and has now found that they can't read barcodes through a dirty windscreen. The man's ex-plod, and a little bird tells me they were glad to see the back of him; the force definitely wasn't with him.....and still isn't

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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It is reg 30 (3) MV Con and Use Regs 1986 :

All glass or other transparent material fitted to a motor vehicle shall be maintained in such condition that it does not obscure the vision of the driver while the vehicle is being driven on a road.

Display of Excise Licence outlined at Reg 16 RV (Reg & Lic) Regs 1971, i.e

Fixed to the vehicle in a holder sufficient to protect the Licence from any effects of the weather to which it would otherwise be exposed, and fixed,.

Motor veh with glass screen in front of the driver extending across the vehicle to the nearside, on or adjacent to the nearside of the screen so that all particulars are clearly visible by daylight from the nearside of the road.. No screen then on the nearside of the vehicle in towards the front of the vehicle.

Terms and condituons may apply to the display of a Parking Permit and either outlined by LA when issued or in the Order. Failure to observe these conditions may incur an extra charge.

If it is a works private parking scheme then no law other than maybe a reference in terms of employment?

DVD

turbobloke

115,883 posts

283 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:
It is reg 30 (3) MV Con and Use Regs 1986 : All glass or other transparent material fitted to a motor vehicle shall be maintained in such condition that it does not obscure the vision of the driver while the vehicle is being driven on a road.


Hi DVD, first off this isn't an attempt at BiB bashing, nor is it trying to push con-and-use regs to the limit but...can you explain in the light of this, how several police vans I've seen in and around Brum recently have had both their rear door glass panels completely obliterated by posters, one giving crime reduction stats for the area and the other a recruitment poster? Plus the rearmost side windows were similarly totally blocked by posters. At the same time we hear that a MoP has been stopped and had his ABD anti-speedcam 'fleecing not policing' sticker forcibly removed from his back window by BiB. Now I know we had a thread recently on road traffic regs that the police can ignore but surely this is extracting the michael...recruitment isn't that severe an emergency is it?


>> Edited by turbobloke on Monday 18th October 19:09

g_attrill

8,736 posts

269 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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The MoT manual gives you an indication as to perhaps where the law might stand:

'Official' stickers
'Official' stickers that are not readily removable - such as vehicle licences, parking and access permits - are only a reason for rejection if they seriously restrict the drivers view. 'Official' stickers should be taken to be any sticker that is used in connection with 'road enforcement', 'security' or 'crime prevention' matters.
These include: Disabled Persons Badges/permits, Parking Permits. Licences and Vehicle Anti-Theft Scheme stickers issued by a Policy Authority.

medicineman

1,817 posts

260 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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I would assume this applies only to windscreen and glass forward of B pillar or else most vans would be illegal.

ws6

420 posts

263 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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I would have thought that anything would go as long it's not within the area where the wipers wipe ?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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turbo

.....could it be they have rear view wing mirrors?

Good point though.

DVD