What is done to combat criminal damage?
What is done to combat criminal damage?
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lanciachris

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3,357 posts

264 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Err. I think i said it all in the title. Whilst reading an article my friend sent me about one of his former teachers (turned out to have a side hobby of child porn) on the surrey police website, noticed a 'report minor crime' link. Under this is criminal damage, vandalism, theft from a motor vehicle, and damage to a motor vehicle.

It annoys me that such an apparently flippant attitude is taken towards offences that can easily be as costly as many burglarys etc..

Reassure me that these arent just treated as something for the insurance companies to sort out...

einion yrth

19,575 posts

267 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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lanciachris said:

It annoys me that such an apparently flippant attitude is taken towards offences that can easily be as costly as many burglarys etc..

Reassure me that these arent just treated as something for the insurance companies to sort out...

What, like burglaries you mean?

^Slider^

2,874 posts

272 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Its probably means criminal damage below a certain amount. As there are thresholds.

Dibble

13,257 posts

263 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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I's possibly just to record it, without having to go through the "Press 1 for abduction, Press 2 for abstraction of electricity... press 45763457643 for Xenophobic crime"

I'd hope that once it's on whatever crime recording system they use, it is then at least looked at to see whether or not it needs deploying to.

lanciachris

Original Poster:

3,357 posts

264 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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einion yrth said:

lanciachris said:

It annoys me that such an apparently flippant attitude is taken towards offences that can easily be as costly as many burglarys etc..

Reassure me that these arent just treated as something for the insurance companies to sort out...


What, like burglaries you mean?


Wasnt aware that burglaries are also treated this way... Sigh.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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too many people don't undertake simple crime prevention measures...

medicineman

1,817 posts

260 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Arm us all. Crime cut within a week.

lanciachris

Original Poster:

3,357 posts

264 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Judging by the lack of BiB response, i think that the answer is exactly what I figured

Dibble

13,257 posts

263 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Sorry lanciachris, it's probably me, but what are you asking?

If it's "Is criminal damage treated as seriously as burglary", then probably not; the public want BiB to investigate more "serious" crimes, and with limited resources, then CD will be looked at less than burglary.

That said, if someone is a victim of this crime, then I'd like to think if I was dealing with it (and being TrafPol doesn't mean I won't), then I'll do a proper job for them.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Quinny said:
Like buying a effing big dog eh street


That's a very good idea....but you know i'd say that...



Street

lanciachris

Original Poster:

3,357 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Basically Im saying I dont think its right that crimes are being reported and nothing being done about them except them being logged on a computer.

alans

3,660 posts

279 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Streetcop said:
too many people don't undertake simple crime prevention measures...

when I moved in to my house, I phoned the local bib for advice on security. "We don't do that anymore"

Munter

31,330 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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lanciachris said:
Basically Im saying I dont think its right that crimes are being reported and nothing being done about them except them being logged on a computer.

I filled in one of these online forms. Someone decided my car door would like a mask of zorrow Z in the paint.

You get a nice (Hand signed) letter saying they are looking into it and giving you a crime number. Then 6 months later you get another letter saying nothing has been done (very difficult to catch people who commit occasional vandalism etc). And thats it.

zumbruk

7,848 posts

283 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Streetcop said:

Quinny said:
Like buying a effing big dog eh street



That's a very good idea....but you know i'd say that...



Street


Can he put out fires?

Munter

31,330 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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alans said:

Streetcop said:
too many people don't undertake simple crime prevention measures...


when I moved in to my house, I phoned the local bib for advice on security. "We don't do that anymore"

Try your home insurance company. (Though they probably charge..)

deltaf

6,806 posts

276 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Streetcop said:
too many people don't undertake simple crime prevention measures...


Blame the victims huh?

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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alans said:

Streetcop said:
too many people don't undertake simple crime prevention measures...


when I moved in to my house, I phoned the local bib for advice on security. "We don't do that anymore"


Bizarre....

Every force in the England and Wales has a crime prevention department...

Street:Cop:

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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zumbruk said:

Streetcop said:


Quinny said:
Like buying a effing big dog eh street




That's a very good idea....but you know i'd say that...



Street



Can he put out fires?


He can find bombs...

Street

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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deltaf said:

Streetcop said:
too many people don't undertake simple crime prevention measures...



Blame the victims huh?


NO not at all...

It's just that some victims do themselves no favours....They also do the rest of us no favours as our insurance premiums go up as a result...

The numbers of thefts from cars at a motorway services on my area is unbelievable. Lap tops left in cars, mobile phones, digital cameras etc etc...

Despite regular police patrols and plain clothes operations (which do net a number of offenders) the crimes continue, as there are always others to take their place.

Criminals travel up and down the country, often visiting dozens of service stations to steal from cars...

Simple things like hiding valuables in the boot, or better still taking them with you will prevent this...but oh no.."I was only gone half an hour. Thought it would be ok."

So, no. It's not about blaming the victims, but it's about taking some responsibility and now relying on everyone else..

Street

ps: just remembered....saw a woman leave the keys to her car in the ignition, with the engine running today, to go to the cashpoint machine....

Pigeon

18,535 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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Streetcop said:
ps: just remembered....saw a woman leave the keys to her car in the ignition, with the engine running today, to go to the cashpoint machine....

Does anyone else find it tempting, on seeing that sort of thing, to jump in the car and drive it round the corner, just to make the point?
No I don't actually do that and I do know it's TWOC