MLM fines come into place today
MLM fines come into place today
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LeoZwalf

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2,802 posts

259 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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Just seen this on BBC news. MLM to get on the spot fine up to 100 quid and 3 points.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22770064

It isn't a new offence but will give police new powers to punish those who do this.

Bit surprised there's no thread on this already especially as it's such a bugbear of most PHers!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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LeoZwalf said:
Bit surprised there's no thread on this already especially as it's such a bugbear of most PHers!
Title will be in a secret code somewhere so you will not know where it is.


Not sure how this is going to pan out, is it a bit careful for what you wish for.....?


Keep an eye out on this thread for "friends" getting caught tailgating when they clearly were not....





anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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Bit more info in this piece too. Interesting list of what he police are likely to be looking at.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23713732


Wozy68

5,436 posts

199 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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NorfolkInClue1 said:
Bit more info in this piece too. Interesting list of what he police are likely to be looking at.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23713732
Blimey. Changing lanes at a roundabout? With the silly road markings being used today, if you don't know the area you're now stuffed if they're watching.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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The big issue with this is it will need a Copper to see the offence so unless you are massively unlucky or tailgate through/past a police station you should be fine.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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Engineer1 said:
The big issue with this is it will need a Copper to see the offence so unless you are massively unlucky or tailgate through/past a police station you should be fine.
Agree 100%.
I spend every week day evening/night trunking from Manchester to Glasgow. From Manchester to Preston you see a few traffic cars both marked and unmarked but from Preston to Gretna I will not see one.
I do however regularly get stuck with a 50 mph MLM, speeding car/van drivers with a variety of trailers and more commonly I see trailers with speedboats or jet skis flying in lane 3, not through ignorance but regular users know they will not get caught.
Expect a barrage of tickets in urban areas for the roundabout lane discipline and giveway junctions, ironically probably by traffic officers taken away from the motorways to cover the shortfall of officers!

valais

59,354 posts

184 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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Driving too close.

Well that's half the lorries on the M1 fined...

jogon

2,971 posts

187 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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They should have just made 'undertaking' or passing on the left acceptable.

In my experience its much more than 1/3 of drivers it's more like 3/4 who simply don't adhere to lane discipline.

Perec

28,176 posts

251 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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OP said:
MLM fines come into place today
Thank goodness, this could spell the end of Amway, Utilities Warehouse and Herbalife.

valais

59,354 posts

184 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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jogon said:
They should have just made 'undertaking' or passing on the leff acceptable.

In my experience its much more than 1/3 of drivers it's more like 3/4 who simply don't adhere to lane discipline.
Too dangerous to introduce.

jogon

2,971 posts

187 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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valais said:
Too dangerous to introduce.
Good. It would either scare them off road or teach them to drive with more consideration to other users.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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They're not new offences. It's the ability to deal with minor s3 offences via FPN instead of the only recourse being to court.

CallorFold

859 posts

162 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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In theory, if people aren't lane hogging and are using the correct lane, that should more or less eliminate the majority of tailgating too smile

talksthetorque

10,821 posts

164 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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I'll look forward to a swift and free flowing journey home this afternoon then.
rofl

creampuff

6,511 posts

172 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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jogon said:
They should have just made 'undertaking' or passing on the left acceptable.

In my experience its much more than 1/3 of drivers it's more like 3/4 who simply don't adhere to lane discipline.
If you go to an empty motorway - of which there aren't that many unless you drive around at 4am or maybe the M6 toll - then MLMs are relatively rare. The problem is that many drivers have no concept about how little time it takes to move from the middle lane, to the left lane while someone overtakes and back again to continue their progress past whatever obstacle a mile up ahead is causing them to be a MLM.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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anonymous said:
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Um, tailgaiting etc. are s3 offences, more or less always have been. I can't think of any alternate legislation then or now.

That you didn't deal with them previously is neither here nor there.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

180 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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My guess is that the police will use this as a way of warning motorists.
Pulling over an mlm, threatening them with the fine, then letting them off if they promise to stop doing it.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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DIzeee, Just to cover all of your posts regarding no changes and how long it will take and your general comments..........

Google the new driver fines and go to the Hampshire and Isle of Wight police force comments today (can't get link to work)

This was about 30 mins ago but I guess it's just more Internet rubbish eh?


Edit due to link fail!!!

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 16th August 09:40

Tom8

6,319 posts

183 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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If we are all sat I a traffic jam together and start moving we should all be done for tail gaiting. We could pay off the deficit in one day on the M25.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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anonymous said:
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I don't think you have a great undrstanding of s3, particularly 'inconsiderate driving'. Perhaps it's this poor awareness that's as much a historical problem in ability to deal as anything else?