If you get pulled over..
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miniandy

Original Poster:

1,512 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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..can a bib inspect your car or do you need to get an official inspection done at an mot station at a time that suits you? what grounds can he have to check your car over if nothing is wrong with it?

just a question, not a dig!

cheers

^Slider^

2,874 posts

272 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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Yes a BiB can inspect your car, and as far as im aware doesnt need any reason to stop and check the car.
But only certain officers can issue a PG9 (prohibition notice)
A MOT test only certifies that the vehicle was roadworthy according to MOT standards, at that time on that day.

lanciachris

3,357 posts

264 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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Of course, you can use the time to give their car a thorough checking over (if you have nothing to lose and time to spare!)

silverback mike

11,292 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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lanciachris said:
Of course, you can use the time to give their car a thorough checking over (if you have nothing to lose and time to spare!)


Yes indeed.......And are you going to issue me a vdrs...

On a serious note, yes a car can be stopped and drivers documents checked. This is generally why a producer is issued as officially it is an offence not to carry docs with you. The HORT gives a 7 day lee way.
Whilst stopped the car can be checked for anything illegal.

Incorrect tyre pressures is a bit harsh though

miniandy

Original Poster:

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Thursday 21st October 2004
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lanciachris said:
Of course, you can use the time to give their car a thorough checking over (if you have nothing to lose and time to spare!)


silverback mike said:

Yes indeed.......

Whilst stopped the car can be checked for anything illegal.

Incorrect tyre pressures is a bit harsh though


what happens if, while checking my car, i see they have a defect, like a headlamp out or they have their front fogs on? does that mean they can't 'do' me for my offence?!

cheers

andy

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272 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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They can still "Do" you if they want.
Depends on how the offence is pointed out i guess.

silverback mike

11,292 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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Er, no. We can still 'do' you for your offence. (Generally by way of a vdrs)

But you can report the offensive police car to the nearest inspector.

Happened to me once. I was speaking to a driver to check his docs (his car was fine)....He informed me my headlight was on sidelight only.....

Gave him a producer, said thanks for letting me know. I had not noticed as I was in an well lit inner city type area, and hot footed it back to the nick for a new bulb. 5 mins later, back out fighting crime and social injustice with a smashing new light.

Incidentally all cars are checked by the driver prior to taking it out of the nick. Sirens, damage, lights, petrol oil water electrics, so anything that occurs is after driving out of the nick.
You sign the book to say you have checked it. It is very wise to check it as if any damage has occured prior to you using it, and haven't checked it. You get the blame....

miniandy

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Thursday 21st October 2004
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^Slider^ said:
They can still "Do" you if they want.



aah i see. i thought that it was kinda tit for tat, and if they were in the wrong then i was in the clear! can you confirm this though, 'cause if you can overrule a speeding conviction based on a radar's "roadworthiness" (can't think of another way to describe it!) then surely the same can be said for a patrol car's?

cheers

miniandy

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260 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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im a bit slow tonight when it comes to posting but thanks for clearing it up mike. i see so many patrol cars with defects round my area it's untrue!

cheers

silverback mike

11,292 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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No problem Andy.
I would have no problems with someone pointing to a default on my car if there is one. I can guarantee they know nothing of it. Hopefully they will thank you for your vigilance.

Mind you, if you OI copper, sort your car out you hypocritical bstard.... I can't guarantee a polite response....

miniandy

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Thursday 21st October 2004
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i'll be tactful with my observation!

^Slider^

2,874 posts

272 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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I think i can consider it confirmed!

turbobloke

115,884 posts

283 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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silverback mike said:
5 mins later, back out fighting crime...
that's the ticket for BiB
silverback mike said:
...and social injustice
hope you didn't mean it that way, one person's social injustice is another's natural justice. Too much of Tiny Bliar's anti-car agenda is excused on this flimsy, subjective and totally bogus basis.
Otherwise how's tricks mike

dubaiguy

356 posts

280 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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BiB .......... I have COPIES of all my docs (incl licence) in my car in case of theft etc. Are these considered acceptable rather than the originals?

^Slider^

2,874 posts

272 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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Some officers may accept this but legally it has to be the original document and not copies.

silverback mike

11,292 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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silverback mike said:
...and social injustice

hope you didn't mean it [/quote]

Just a turn of phrase.

Me, I'm on top form. Hope you are the same.

silverback mike

11,292 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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dubaiguy said:
BiB .......... I have COPIES of all my docs (incl licence) in my car in case of theft etc. Are these considered acceptable rather than the originals?


Unfortunately they are copies, so worthless in the eyes of the inspecting officer.
I see why you have them, but would still mean you get a HORT as they have to be the genuine article.

V8 Archie

4,703 posts

271 months

Friday 22nd October 2004
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miniandy said:
aah i see. i thought that it was kinda tit for tat, and if they were in the wrong then i was in the clear!


It's a job, not a game.


Pinch, punch, first NiP of the month

>> Edited by V8 Archie on Friday 22 October 00:47

Pigeon

18,535 posts

269 months

Friday 22nd October 2004
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john robson said:
All we need then is the power to sieze cars from uninsured/unlicenced drivers

Once they have been found guilty in court, I hope.

dubaiguy

356 posts

280 months

Friday 22nd October 2004
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Thanks guys ........ (re - copy docs)