Theft
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hertsbiker

Original Poster:

6,443 posts

294 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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If you pay for something, and someone deprives you of the use of it, or part of it - does this constitute theft? only curious... more to follow on this later .

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

278 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Let's see now. If you pay a lady of the night....then she says no.....

Breach of contract, methinks.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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No..not really.....a variety of offences spring to mind..but you must expand before I can answer better..

hertsbiker

Original Poster:

6,443 posts

294 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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ok, I lease something at a yearly rate, and it is a) not maintained to the standard I agreed on, and b) some of it is taken from me in a number of ways that I do not agree to. Infact, I get less and less for my lease each year, despite the lease increasing regulary. Where do I stand in claiming compensation?
cheers!

xxplod

2,269 posts

267 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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You can't bilk a bonk!

northernboy

12,642 posts

280 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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hertsbiker said:
If you pay for something, and someone deprives you of the use of it, or part of it - does this constitute theft? only curious... more to follow on this later .


Not necessarily, no. Surely you don't think someone blocking a drive, sitting on your jacket, or locking you in a car park late at night is theft, do you?

If not, why on earth do you ask?

flat_steve

1,535 posts

270 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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This is Jenson Button, isn't it? Listen, the CRB ruled against you, live with it!!

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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hertsbiker said:
ok, I lease something at a yearly rate, and it is a) not maintained to the standard I agreed on, and b) some of it is taken from me in a number of ways that I do not agree to. Infact, I get less and less for my lease each year, despite the lease increasing regulary. Where do I stand in claiming compensation?
cheers!


As Sc and others state not enough to go on.

What you have stated seems to point to a civil matter in breach of contract? Damages to be accessed through Civil Court.

DVD

rus wood

1,233 posts

290 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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He is talking about the Road Fund License - wind up!

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

286 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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rus wood said:
He is talking about the Road Fund License - wind up!


Fair play, and the man has a point IMHO - something i've been minging to my other half about since Ken Livingstone first mentioned the London CC.

hertsbiker

Original Poster:

6,443 posts

294 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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No, I'm talking about BUS LANES.

How DARE they steal OUR road for the use of a private company? I'd love to take a civil action out on them, and see what happens.

We pay for it, the road is maintained by our money, yet stinking buses carrying dole-scum and piss-their-pants oldies to places they have no hurry to go.

When are we gonna stop putting up with it?

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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You can't do anthing about bus lanes...they're here to stay..

Personally, I would be happy with two lanes for cars instead of one and a bus lane. I mean, why should the peasants on the buses get home quicker than me?

However, while they are there...I, and the other BiB will enforce them...for various reasons..one is for the 95% of people who remain in the correct lane and don't abuse them..

Street

Balmoral Green

42,558 posts

271 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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hertsbiker said:
No, I'm talking about BUS LANES.

How DARE they steal OUR road for the use of a private company? I'd love to take a civil action out on them, and see what happens.

We pay for it, the road is maintained by our money, yet stinking buses carrying dole-scum and piss-their-pants oldies to places they have no hurry to go.

When are we gonna stop putting up with it?


I agree 100%, problem is, the folks who think these things up and reckon they are good have absolutely no idea or concept of what is just, honest, decent or right. They do not have the ability or integrity to think in depth about even what the road is and who it is for, let alone who pays for it.

You make an excellent point about public property being hijacked for the use of and profit of private companies for no public gain whatsoever, only a huge public loss of an essential public amenity...the road!

thebluemonkey

1,296 posts

263 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Streetcop said:

I mean, why should the peasants on the buses get home quicker than me?


Sorry, wrong way round. The peasants are the ones who can't afford a taxi and have to sit in traffic all day long.

turbobloke

115,888 posts

283 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Balmoral Green said:
You make an excellent point about public property being hijacked for the use of and profit of private companies for no public gain whatsoever, only a huge public loss of an essential public amenity...the road!

Not to mention that these disgusting road thieving contraptions are also one of the filthiest polluters on the roads. An average diesel bus emits as much particulate pollution in a year as 128 cars, and when the engine is under load those particulates contain the two most active cancer causing chemicals known to science. Small engines in cars don't do that. They use 60% more energy per person transported than cars and instead of the green god they're painted, they really are one of the most deadly forms of transport there is
Edited to add, OK this isn't strictly spl material, but it ought to be illegal that buses get easier emissions tests, subsidies, their own lane(s), and if that's not bad enough, Ken and Prezza love them...

>> Edited by turbobloke on Thursday 28th October 21:57

gone

6,649 posts

286 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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hertsbiker said:
If you pay for something, and someone deprives you of the use of it, or part of it - does this constitute theft? only curious... more to follow on this later .


The most important part in the theft act is whether something is dishonest. The law does not state what is dishonest but it does state what is not!
Sections 1-6 Theft Act 1968 deal with this.

Taking part of the highway and designating it as a bus lane is in no way dishonest although it may have some immoral connotations attched to it